It's 2025 Is an Emtb in your near future?

Is an Emtb in your near future?

  • Yes

    Votes: 10 7.8%

  • No

    Votes: 52 40.6%

  • Maybe

    Votes: 21 16.4%

  • Never

    Votes: 11 8.6%

  • Already own one

    Votes: 34 26.6%
  • Total voters
    128
E-MTB conversion kits are out on the market now and they seem quite legit, not cheap Chinese kits you might find on Amazon or Aliexpress. Bimotal and CYC are two I saw so far.
 
My riding buddy just picked up a Yamaha Moro 5 for less than most entry level full suspension bikes. This is most likely the cause of the deep freeze because he is so desperate to ride🙄
 
tonyride said:
E-MTB conversion kits are out on the market now and they seem quite legit, not cheap Chinese kits you might find on Amazon or Aliexpress. Bimotal and CYC are two I saw so far.
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The bafang BBS02 kit is really nice, i'd had mine since 2015 all original components. I raced it in the martys race and the only issue was a dropped chain, i'm heavy and the square tapers held up which is the weakest part about it.

I was going to get the cyc photon for my fatbike but it's prone to failure. It was nice because it's similar to the bbs02 but it has splined cranks. I wouldn't trust anything cyc to last a while after reading about them.

The bimotal is cool but that thing looks like it will chatter and break being so heavy on the triangle. It's really slick but the ability to put it on and take it off is a gimmick, the battery also needs to come off......now you are riding your analog bike with a bunch of wires and junk zip tied to it it.
 
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tonyride said:
I'm not a fan of Pivot for one dumb reason, they use superboost in the rear. I like to swap out wheels from time to time of different types and they're all 148mm in the rear so I can't do that with a modern Pivot.
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Get over it. 157 makes for a stronger rear wheel. The don’t do it to be difficult. They do it because it is a better solution. It’s far easier to build around a 148 hub, but it makes a way less solid rear wheel.
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You can take out my am one day if you like. But be ready to buy. I’ve sold a lot of these to people who were convinced after just one ride.

These are going to the race motor soon which makes this a better option still. Might flip mine to go for that. Or maybe got for the new LT which is mullet. That has some advantages for my short ass legs. 🦵
 
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jdog said:
I’ve ridden it a lot.

600wh battery w no range extender option is a deal breaker for me.

Rides well though.

I rarely come home w/o crushing the 750wh on the shuttle am.
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I could kid myself and say I can ride as long and hard as you younger shredders but realistically I just can't. Even with a range extender on my Rise my body will run out of juice before the battery will and that's with ~540 or 560Wh total? Even if my legs can handle it with the motor assisting, it's the rest of my body (back, arms, butt, neck, wrist) the motor doesn't help with that limits me. Last year in Bentonville I had to tap out at around 24 miles. I say all that to say I don't think I'll ever need more than 600Wh of juice so that's not an issue for me.
 
jdog said:
Get over it. 157 makes for a stronger rear wheel. The don’t do it to be difficult. They do it because it is a better solution. It’s far easier to build around a 148 hub, but it makes a way less solid rear wheel.
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You can take out my am one day if you like. But be ready to buy. I’ve sold a lot of these to people who were convinced after just one ride.

These are going to the race motor soon which makes this a better option still. Might flip mine to go for that. Or maybe got for the new LT which is mullet. That has some advantages for my short ass legs. 🦵
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I'm sure all of those benefits to 157mm over 148mm are true but none of them will be realized by me with the way I ride. I'm as stubborn as a mule so unless my list of pros and cons leans heavily towards 157mm, I'm not buying it. BTW, when I said I'm not a fan of Pivot for one dumb reason I meant my reason is dumb, not the superboost spacing.
 
jdog said:
Get over it. 157 makes for a stronger rear wheel. The don’t do it to be difficult. They do it because it is a better solution. It’s far easier to build around a 148 hub, but it makes a way less solid rear wheel.
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I can contest as the wheel destroying lurch that I am.
 
tonyride said:
Maybe what I need is one busted rear wheel to convert me.
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Since going e I've destroyed both original wheels, then 2 handbuilts and 1 purchased. All rear. My take is 1. I'm a lard 2. I do not finesse 3. May need 36 thicker spoke rear wheel. These bikes are 20# heavier then the parts are designed for. It's like drivetrains for regular bikes just don't cut the mustard. I really should be a tester because I've been breaking shit for 30+ years.
 
jdog said:
Get over it. 157 makes for a stronger rear wheel. The don’t do it to be difficult. They do it because it is a better solution. It’s far easier to build around a 148 hub, but it makes a way less solid rear wheel.
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You can take out my am one day if you like. But be ready to buy. I’ve sold a lot of these to people who were convinced after just one ride.

These are going to the race motor soon which makes this a better option still. Might flip mine to go for that. Or maybe got for the new LT which is mullet. That has some advantages for my short ass legs. 🦵
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Is superboost the now, again?
 
jdog said:
Get over it. 157 makes for a stronger rear wheel. The don’t do it to be difficult. They do it because it is a better solution. It’s far easier to build around a 148 hub, but it makes a way less solid rear wheel.
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You can take out my am one day if you like. But be ready to buy. I’ve sold a lot of these to people who were convinced after just one ride.

These are going to the race motor soon which makes this a better option still. Might flip mine to go for that. Or maybe got for the new LT which is mullet. That has some advantages for my short ass legs. 🦵
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the new AMs will have the Bosch Race? 👍
 
tonyride said:
I could kid myself and say I can ride as long and hard as you younger shredders but realistically I just can't. Even with a range extender on my Rise my body will run out of juice before the battery will and that's with ~540 or 560Wh total? Even if my legs can handle it with the motor assisting, it's the rest of my body (back, arms, butt, neck, wrist) the motor doesn't help with that limits me. Last year in Bentonville I had to tap out at around 24 miles. I say all that to say I don't think I'll ever need more than 600Wh of juice so that's not an issue for me.
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It might be worth looking at the new Orbea Rise w/ a 400 wh battery and a range extender. This allows a really light setup when on a shorter ride.

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I’m headed to Spain in a week to visit mondraker. I haven’t ridden the Bosch SX motor yet, but the lighter 400wh battery and an extender is an interesting concept.

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I’ll report back.
 
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