Bad Driving

Don’t know if this is a new trend or not but lately I’ve noticed semis hogging the left lane on three/four lane highways more often. Eg not to pass, but just sitting there in the flow of traffic. Last I checked, in NJ they need to stick to the middle or right lanes. Have all sorts of respect for truckers. They got us through Covid for one thing… but move over good buddy!
 
icebiker said:
Don’t know if this is a new trend or not but lately I’ve noticed semis hogging the left lane on three/four lane highways more often. Eg not to pass, but just sitting there in the flow of traffic. Last I checked, in NJ they need to stick to the middle or right lanes. Have all sorts of respect for truckers. They got us through Covid for one thing… but move over good buddy!
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non US born drivers - take a peek
 
icebiker said:
Don’t know if this is a new trend or not but lately I’ve noticed semis hogging the left lane on three/four lane highways more often. Eg not to pass, but just sitting there in the flow of traffic. Last I checked, in NJ they need to stick to the middle or right lanes. Have all sorts of respect for truckers. They got us through Covid for one thing… but move over good buddy!
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Not new, been happening since C-19, especially after everything opened back up and the daily 295 commute got longer. What I have noticed lately is the lane splitting moto riders in heavy traffic.
 
JDurk said:
Not new, been happening since C-19, especially after everything opened back up and the daily 295 commute got longer. What I have noticed lately is the lane splitting moto riders in heavy traffic.
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Under the right circumstances and done with the right etiquette (this is key), filtering is a benign practice that helps reduce congestion. Would you rather be stuck behind those same scooters and motorcycles? The US is one of the few countries where this is not common place.
 
natlady10 said:
Under the right circumstances and done with the right etiquette (this is key), filtering is a benign practice that helps reduce congestion. Would you rather be stuck behind those same scooters and motorcycles? The US is one of the few countries where this is not common place.
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regardless of any (perceived or real doesnt matter) benefit to congestion, if i were on a motorcycle id be afraid to lane split with the way people drive, especially around here with all the NY plates that change lanes without signaling (OR EVEN LOOKING), besides the fact that in stop/go traffic motorcycles are EXTREMELY difficult to see hidden between cars in this situation, not worth the risk of death IMO
 
natlady10 said:
Under the right circumstances and done with the right etiquette (this is key), filtering is a benign practice that helps reduce congestion. Would you rather be stuck behind those same scooters and motorcycles? The US is one of the few countries where this is not common place.
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I don't disagree with you. Though there's not law in NJ saying you can't do it, and I'm not against it, as @shrpshtr325 mentioned, many drivers are in their own little world when driving. When I see a rider in my mirror doing it, I leave them enough room. It's the one's that I don't see and moving much faster than traffic that I dislike.

I'd rather them use the shoulder, which now that I think of it, I see many more drivers going 55mph+ on the shoulder in a backup too often as if it's their own personal lane.
 
shrpshtr325 said:
regardless of any (perceived or real doesnt matter) benefit to congestion, if i were on a motorcycle id be afraid to lane split with the way people drive, especially around here with all the NY plates that change lanes without signaling (OR EVEN LOOKING), besides the fact that in stop/go traffic motorcycles are EXTREMELY difficult to see hidden between cars in this situation, not worth the risk of death IMO
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JDurk said:
I don't disagree with you. Though there's not law in NJ saying you can't do it, and I'm not against it, as @shrpshtr325 mentioned, many drivers are in their own little world when driving. When I see a rider in my mirror doing it, I leave them enough room. It's the one's that I don't see and moving much faster than traffic that I dislike.

I'd rather them use the shoulder, which now that I think of it, I see many more drivers going 55mph+ on the shoulder in a backup too often as if it's their own personal lane.
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Etiquette is key. In Asia where I’ve observed it, two wheelers are generally on electric scooters and filtering when traffic is slowed or stopped at intersections. Do not take anything I’ve said as condoning the ones on 95 weaving between cars at highway speed. That is not filtering, that is reckless.
 
natlady10 said:
How would you be able to tell by just looking at them? 🤔
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Certainly truth.

I hate to stereotype, rules of the road are different depending on the country.
Lots of places don't queue well in any situation - esp when driving.
it is upbringing/socially acceptable, even expected.
Social norms and mores.

Also have drivers who didn't grow up with a family car or driving.
Their feel for the road is much different. 80kph is scary.
I get that.

all my life, trucks stayed out of the left lane whenever possible.
Accepted the speed, honked at middle lane blockers (who would then move into the left lane)
It really is the last bunch of years.

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(I was writing this when you hit submit on the last post)
Splitting when the traffic is moving below highway speed isn't horrible.
It is the 100mph between vehicles that are 70+
I was ebiking in NYC the last couple days - Went full on ahole.
bus lane, splitting, running reds (after checking)
I'd be wheelie guy, but no skills.
Blame GTA!
 
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