Durability Only - Shimano vs Sram

krink said:
Just get a wireless dropper and you’ll always have a second half charged battery on your bike.
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I also have this.

And actually on my ride this morning I remembered my spare battery now lives in a 3d-printed mount on my frame where it's visible.
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Also wik: we invoked the devil. I got pinged at the end of my ride this morning.
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(My bikes have names)

Also also wik: This is a cheap and visible reminder if you don't keep the battery on the derailleur (photo harvested from the internet)
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I whacked my AXS XX1 this morning - HARD - and it's still in great shape. Moral of the story: go electronic. Thank us later.
 
The Worst said:
My wallet hates that I asked this question to begin with. My wife is OK with it, but my wallet is not a fan.
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I buy everything secondary-market on an opportunistic basis - I'm not actively shopping but when I see something, I don't sit on it. It took me about 2 years but all my bikes ended up on secondhand AXS (thanks, guys!)
 
zmartene said:
I buy everything secondary-market on an opportunistic basis - I'm not actively shopping but when I see something, I don't sit on it. It took me about 2 years but all my bikes ended up on secondhand AXS (thanks, guys!)
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I did a lot of fb marketplace in my first couple years riding. I still do, but I used to also. 😆

I’ve actually stopped getting drivetrain components 2nd hand though. Too hard to tell what amount of wear/shifting issues until it’s actually on the bike.
 
The Worst said:
I did a lot of fb marketplace in my first couple years riding. I still do, but I used to also. 😆

I’ve actually stopped getting drivetrain components 2nd hand though. Too hard to tell what amount of wear/shifting issues until it’s actually on the bike.
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I've been lucky to snag stuff from here. I don't FB/CL/PB/whatever. I bought my Big Bike new (and have upgraded much of it) but other than that I've never bought anything from retail.

Edit: other than expendables like chains, one cassette, tires, and brake pads
 
The Worst said:
My wallet hates that I asked this question to begin with. My wife is OK with it, but my wallet is not a fan.
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XT derailleurs are actually rather inexpensive as are XT cassettes compared to SRAM. I'm on mostly Shimano and my wife is on SRAM. I won't argue one way the other but I definitely notice replacement costs are less with Shimano and neither are really more unreliable for us where it's noticeable.

Both mechanical.

People can argue about how it's impossible to have a battery die but I've seen way too many people show up to rides with a dead battery from traveling or forgetting their battery. If I was in the market for a new bike I wouldn't necessarily skip going AXS/DI2 but not something I feel the need to "upgrade" to. I do think I'd more likely go with Shimano only because of the shifter setup with the levers vs buttons.
 
Big fan of the all steel sram NX cassettes. I run Sram gx on my e bike and meat bike. My fat bike and road bikes run shimano. I prefer HG hubs,so
I can interchange shimano and sram cassettes. The transmission chains, cassettes and derailleurs all cost more that gx and xt similar parts. My e bike has stock gx derailleur and an all steel NX cassette with a chain change every 500 miles. Just hit 3500 miles… on a full power e bike with a not light rider….
 
Santapez said:
XT derailleurs are actually rather inexpensive as are XT cassettes compared to SRAM. I'm on mostly Shimano and my wife is on SRAM. I won't argue one way the other but I definitely notice replacement costs are less with Shimano and neither are really more unreliable for us where it's noticeable.

Both mechanical.

People can argue about how it's impossible to have a battery die but I've seen way too many people show up to rides with a dead battery from traveling or forgetting their battery. If I was in the market for a new bike I wouldn't necessarily skip going AXS/DI2 but not something I feel the need to "upgrade" to. I do think I'd more likely go with Shimano only because of the shifter setup with the levers vs buttons.
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No doubt the Shimano mech stuff is WAAAY cheaper than any electronic and even Eagle 90.

I have no interest in the newest clutchless Shimano mech and Di2 stuff. They blew it. Years late to the wireless game and it’s notably worse than what SRAM has had on the market for years.

I won’t be upgrading right now, I’ve already got my Ripmo back up and running, but when I get a new bike (probably over the winter) I’ll end up getting a complete with SRAM transmission, (likely wireless), instead of building up a frame like I have the past few times.
 
The Worst said:
Yeah, probably some like I said above, but I’ve also been riding and racing tri, road, and mtb for a long time. I’m not shifting under load unless absolutely necessary and on exceedingly rare occasions. My lines can certainly improve, but I’m not trying to squeeze through narrow derailleur grabber gaps. I stop pedaling as soon as possible when I get something in the drivetrain and get off the bike to remove, but I’m in north jersey… there’s never a time the trails are truly free of sticks and grabbers. The Shimano derailleur cage just seems to be made of tin foil.
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Not sure what to say. Like JV said I still have my original. Axs and a second.axs that I bought first one in 2018, second one in 2020. They are both running strong not even sure how you break a derailleur. I don’t care. It’s definitely got to be you. I ride the Frederick watershed which is about as tough as any NJ Trail times two.. maybe get a single speed, rigid and practice smoothing out your style
 
Dave Taylor said:
Not sure what to say. Like JV said I still have my original. Axs and a second.axs that I bought first one in 2018, second one in 2020. They are both running strong not even sure how you break a derailleur. I don’t care. It’s definitely got to be you. I ride the Frederick watershed which is about as tough as any NJ Trail times two.. maybe get a single speed, rigid and practice smoothing out your style
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Cool. Thanks.
 
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