rick81721
Lothar
Yes! Tho will still wear masks where required
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Yes! Tho will still wear masks where required
rick81721
Lothar
But I've been avoiding group rides for years - covid just gave me cover 😆
Don't "they" say that you can still catch the virus after being vaccinated it just won't kill you anymore.
rick81721
Lothar
Yes, like the flu vaccines. People have to realize covid is here until/unless it mutates to a completely harmless strains. More likely, it will be another flu like virus that will always be around. If you are still afraid after vaccination, live the rest of your life in a bubble.
one piece crank
1pc Cranky
To many, myself included, this whole thing has pointed out that I really don’t need most restaurants. Yes, I have a favorite restaurant/food-style, but this last year of home cooking has put more interesting and adventurous options on our dinner table. As an essential business, a solid year of self made lunches was more enjoyable and tasted better than any commercial local option.
Who would have thought staying in was really the better option?
the results from a couple 100M vaccines being administered, with a few month of data, would be more compelling than your opinion for "them."
Remember the I am Legend premise 😉
rick81721
Lothar
You still aren't articulating what "results". The results of being vaccinated is you are protected. What else do you need to know?
I don't need to know anything - can you (you meaning you) conceive of a distribution of behaviors and they are on one end of the curve?
rick81721
Lothar
Irrelevant. I don't think you understand the concept of vaccination - you get vaccinated and you are protected. Get on with life. You get a flu shot in September and flu incidence peaks in the winter. Do you hide in your house during all those peak months??
we are not talking about me. and we are not talking about you.
we are talking about the people who are worried that they will be the break through case that ends up in the hospital or worse.
they are not interesting in probabilities beyond their control, no matter how miniscule.
PTSD? maybe.
Robson
Well-Known Member
And you know what you eat because you prepared it.
Fat Trout
Well-Known Member
you and @rick81721 both have reasonable points. I might only share that as a comparison....perhaps terrible one.....I could be terrified of every rocky MTB downhill I approach or I can in some way trust my choice and let go. Similarly, I have to admit that every time a plane I am on powers up and takes a steep angle to get to altitude that seems to me a little steeper than I'd like I cringe but have to let go and trust. Some landings are similar lol. Somewhere and sometime with Covid (and vaccination or herd immunity) we have to make our own choice and accept we do the best we can and trust similarly. I try not to fault anyone..... ride, don't ride, fly, don't fly but choose what you can deal with (hopefully) without it consuming you. Covid is far from the only thing that can grab any of us at a moments notice and change our lives.
rick81721
Lothar
Hence my original post. It is an irrational fear based on ignorance of science. Surely the media has played a significant part in this.
it is a point on a continuum of behaviors - not irrational at all.
after being this far in, what is the difference to waiting a couple more months?
just like the people that say they will get vaccinated after more data comes in,
as opposed to the misinformed conspiracy theorists - but i guess they have their role too.
Fodder for John Oliver.
rick81721
Lothar
Of course it is. You like to fly, what do you say to people who refuse to fly because they are afraid?
What will change in a few months, or years for that matter? Covid will still be around. We are talking about fully vaccinated people here, not those still waiting/unsure.
COVID-19: Rutgers Students Required To Get Vaccine By Fall, Nation's 1st University Mandate
Rutgers University will require the COVID-19 vaccine for all students who are enrolled for the 2021 fall semester, officials announced Thursday.The New Jersey college is believed to be the first in the nation to require a coronavirus shot …
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Good for you, Rutgers.
Who cares if someone is afraid of flying? Who cares if they live in a bubble, it makes no difference to anyone else, so why the judgements. Take a yoga class and breathe, no judgements.
they aren't afraid of flying, they are afraid of crashing.
According to the Federal Aviation Administration, there are around three small plane crashes in the U.S. per day. In 2018, 46 more people were killed in aviation accidents than year before, leading the fatal accident rate to rise above 1 per 100,000 flight hours for the first time in two years.
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they don't feel safe - they aren't willing to take the risk.
simple maslow stuff here.
rick81721
Lothar
Exactly - irrational