Calling all desktop computer gamers or those who have gamer kids......

walter

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Youngest child has requested a gaming computer for Christmas. Looking for pre-built complete package type thing. Budget is about $1500, hopefully a bit less. I have zero technology knowledge, my wife is the computer person. She specifically asked about a NZXT? We see the major brands all offer stuff, just looking for some guidance. Any help appreciated.
 
We have a mid level omen. Works well, look for prime deals.

That said, my kid built one last year with prime day deals for under $1k and it is a monster...
 
My daughter built her own last year, her card was about your budget, she's big on the League stuff. What type of games is he playing? Virtual memory is the future. Basically people will have dummy terminals like the old days. I don't game at all but know my kids will first ask what type of games he will be playing.

 
I found that anything over 1k prebuilt is diminishing gains. Add on a 2tb SSD and you should be good for at least 5 years
 
If you have a Microcenter near you, stop in and chat with the guys in the back. There's one in Paterson. Sometimes I go there just to walk around. It's awesome. They pretty much all know what they're talking about. They sell pre-built, or you can literally talk through all the parts and then pay them to build it for you.

Online pre-builts are fine, but there's always stories of damage in shipping, etc. May need some assembly on arrival if you're not comfortable with that. On top of that, they sometimes cheap out on some stuff as the primary selling point is the CPU/GPU, but then they'll throw in an ugly motherboard, cheapo RAM, low quality PSU, etc.

A lot depends on what games they want to play and at what level. I've built pretty much every computer I've ever had, and watercooled most of them, but I do it for fun. Don't really have much time these days for games. Current build is maybe 2 years old and watercooled. Ryzen 5600X CPU, 6600XT GPU. Those are the parts where most of your money will go. RAM and NVMe drives are cheap, so go for 32GB and 2TB respectively. My current build is overkill for regular users, and somewhere in the middle for gaming. You won't be playing brand new titles at Ultra graphics and 4k, but it will still handle them fine at lower levels, plus like 95% of other games.
 
My son games. Asus ROG Strix. He plays a lot of FPS stuff. I know a friend of his and he took an afternoon and modded it. Biggest issue he had was cooling, so a cooling unit mod was added plus additional storage.

If Fortnite and the like or Minecraft is what they are looking to play, I can recommend it.

Remember the screen cost if you haven’t factored that in.
 
My middle (21) and youngest (17) both are into gaming and oldest one built his own and one for his brother for 2 years ago ish?

Even tho im a career IT person the gaming stuff if not my wheel house.

I would say that they both went to micro center in Paterson and built everything from scratch for a better value and faster stuff than the prebuilt stuff. Not sure if they do any of that stuff at micro center but long term you might get more bang for your Buck if you can spec it out.
 
If you have a Microcenter near you, stop in and chat with the guys in the back. There's one in Paterson. Sometimes I go there just to walk around. It's awesome. They pretty much all know what they're talking about. They sell pre-built, or you can literally talk through all the parts and then pay them to build it for you.

Online pre-builts are fine, but there's always stories of damage in shipping, etc. May need some assembly on arrival if you're not comfortable with that. On top of that, they sometimes cheap out on some stuff as the primary selling point is the CPU/GPU, but then they'll throw in an ugly motherboard, cheapo RAM, low quality PSU, etc.

A lot depends on what games they want to play and at what level. I've built pretty much every computer I've ever had, and watercooled most of them, but I do it for fun. Don't really have much time these days for games. Current build is maybe 2 years old and watercooled. Ryzen 5600X CPU, 6600XT GPU. Those are the parts where most of your money will go. RAM and NVMe drives are cheap, so go for 32GB and 2TB respectively. My current build is overkill for regular users, and somewhere in the middle for gaming. You won't be playing brand new titles at Ultra graphics and 4k, but it will still handle them fine at lower levels, plus like 95% of other games.
Plus lower sales tax!
 
okay im back, thinking of getting big man one for Christmas. I think the cool lights would make him think hes on a spaceship or some shit.

@walter what did you do? i dont mind going to a store but also dont need the best of the best. hes currently on a 2010 iMac and happy with it, but little man is getting jelly.


kicking around on Amazon and as always, seeing bad reviews scares me. are any of these worth it?

$449 one: Amazon product ASIN B0BK539D4V
$614 one: Amazon product ASIN B0C4W99B3R
 
I've always spent the extra for an ASUS build when I haven't done it myself (which I haven't in several years, since I no longer have spare parts/cases/power supplies). They're like the Trek of the computer world...nothing stunning at the price, but dependable/easy to work with if there are problems (last one was a sound bar issue with my laptop 15+ years ago...simply sent me a new laptop. Of course, that was a different world then with mail-order retail...).

Read the specs carefully, and bias yourself towards the bad reviews. They probably cheap out on the 1) power supply (absolute worst thing to cheap out on), 2) graphics card (most of the problems being making sure there is adequate thermal compound between heatsinks/chipsets), and 3) fans (cheapest part. Expensive fans are simply quieter for the same flow rate).

Skip anything that says it comes with peripherals. You don't need to spend an extra $100 for a crappy monitor or "gaming" devices.

You will never compare with whatever their hero streamer is using. $7-800 is a reasonable price for a capable-of-playing-whatever computer. Look for products without ANY peripherals, which the sellers usually use to say "see, we give you so much stuff".
 
okay im back, thinking of getting big man one for Christmas. I think the cool lights would make him think hes on a spaceship or some shit.

@walter what did you do? i dont mind going to a store but also dont need the best of the best. hes currently on a 2010 iMac and happy with it, but little man is getting jelly.


kicking around on Amazon and as always, seeing bad reviews scares me. are any of these worth it?

$449 one: Amazon product ASIN B0BK539D4V
$614 one: Amazon product ASIN B0C4W99B3R
We were gonna go the "build your own" route, but after Mrs Walter spoke to her nephews over Thanksgiving dinner, she ended going with this- $900ish for the goods, and I think she got the monitor for $200
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3060 is kind of aging and put on entry level builds. Speaking from someone who plays games, it's solid and good enough to run whatever with no complaints and good for the price.
 
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