Going too far … ?

You playing it safe
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I wish I could do dumb stuff and make money posting the videos on YT, unfortunately a) I don't know how to do dumb/dangerous stuff (none that maybe even remotely entertaining that is, plenty of regular dumb stuff otherwise) b) I really can't risk to get hurt or loose my job right now c) I wish I was that cute!
 
You're also projecting our absolute dogshit USA Healthcare onto a Country and Athlete that are not USA. That crash would cost a Million Dollars here.
 
Pretty sure all RedBull athletes are VERY well taken care of, especially on the medical side.
Why do many of them post about that supplemental athlete insurance then? I am pretty sure Red Bull does not take care of them (yes, he is probably sponsored by that provider) . Wasn’t hard to find an example (bonus for NJ native AND Red Bull hat)
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You're also projecting our absolute dogshit USA Healthcare onto a Country and Athlete that are not USA. That crash would cost a Million Dollars here.
Also a good point. In Fabio's case, Healthcare is universal in Austria.... but he obviously gets special care from sports therapists and whatnot.
 
Why do many of them post about that supplemental athlete insurance then? I am pretty sure Red Bull does not take care of them (yes, he is probably sponsored by that provider) . Wasn’t hard to find an example (bonus for NJ native AND Red Bull hat)
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Because it's a sponsorship and they make money from promoting them? Unless you see the billing information I would take their endorsement with a giant grain of salt.
 
Why do many of them post about that supplemental athlete insurance then? I am pretty sure Red Bull does not take care of them (yes, he is probably sponsored by that provider) . Wasn’t hard to find an example (bonus for NJ native AND Red Bull hat)
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This sounds more like an endorsement than a plea for help. They probably covered his cost to get him to post this. Also, I got my orbital broken in a mosh pit....suck it up bro.
 
This sounds more like an endorsement than a plea for help. They probably covered his cost to get him to post this. Also, I got my orbital broken in a mosh pit....suck it up bro.
Lol, come on son, didn’t say he wasn’t riding the next day. not sure if you know who he is but you know he dropping sick stuff a couple day later.

It is an interesting conversation regardless, the article below is referencing Event insurance, which yes, is different than you are my employer insurance. However, these riders are not full-time employees. Which sponsor takes the cost for medical? Your drink sponsor (red bull), your clothing, shoe, frame, or component? We know insurance coverage isn't coming from the company that gives you a bars and stem. So the "title sponsor" could easily say "you aren’t paying insurance, so why should we".


I remember Tyler McCaul coming in 5th place in 2013 and telling me that he could barely cover his whole trip with his earnings. In 2014 Kyle Strait was awarded $4,000 for his 4th place result, leaving just $1,000 take home after his expenses for two weeks in the desert. At an hourly rate that's probably worse than minimum wage. This year Cam Zink made just $3,000 for his 6th place finish, and the pay scale falls off fast after that. Many riders in the Top 10 couldn't even cover their gas expenses with the pennies they made for their efforts. Perhaps the biggest of all, the riders are not covered by an event insurance policy. ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

This is MADNESS.

How can Red Bull do this to the best in our sport in good conscience? It's literally costing the Pros money to hurl themselves down the gnarliest mountain Red Bull could find, and they're not covered if they fall.

That's blatant exploitation. Seriously. And it's to the point where riders are facing more potential for worse injuries. Riders must bring their own insurance to the event, and are then required to sign a liability waiver freeing Red Bull of any responsibility.
 
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Lol, come on son, didn’t say he wasn’t riding the next day. not sure if you know who he is but you know he dropping sick stuff a couple day later.

It is an interesting conversation regardless, the article below is referencing Event insurance, which yes, is different than you are my employer insurance. However, these riders are not full-time employees. Which sponsor takes the cost for medical? Your drink sponsor (red bull), your clothing, shoe, frame, or component? We know insurance coverage isn't coming from the company that gives you a bars and stem. So the "title sponsor" could easily say "you aren’t paying insurance, so why should we".


I remember Tyler McCaul coming in 5th place in 2013 and telling me that he could barely cover his whole trip with his earnings. In 2014 Kyle Strait was awarded $4,000 for his 4th place result, leaving just $1,000 take home after his expenses for two weeks in the desert. At an hourly rate that's probably worse than minimum wage. This year Cam Zink made just $3,000 for his 6th place finish, and the pay scale falls off fast after that. Many riders in the Top 10 couldn't even cover their gas expenses with the pennies they made for their efforts. Perhaps the biggest of all, the riders are not covered by an event insurance policy. ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

This is MADNESS.

How can Red Bull do this to the best in our sport in good conscience? It's literally costing the Pros money to hurl themselves down the gnarliest mountain Red Bull could find, and they're not covered if they fall.

That's blatant exploitation. Seriously. And it's to the point where riders are facing more potential for worse injuries. Riders must bring their own insurance to the event, and are then required to sign a liability waiver freeing Red Bull of any responsibility.
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Skating is similar. Not to be MR local, but the guy explaining it is from the area of PA i live in. The key is "independent contractor".
 
I want to know who paid for the medical helicopter. Honestly torn as to what to do when someone goes to a remote area and commits remarkably stupid acts with camera's rolling...then they waive a flag for medical evacuation (is there a silver medal category for darwin awards...like you "almost died)". I would feel better if it was one of those Red Bull stunt helicopters zooming in to do the rescue (cross-marketing !!!)
 

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I'm guessing guys like Remy who post a bunch of stuff to social media and get picked up all the time on Pink Bike make a lot more $s than your typical racer.
 
Lol, come on son, didn’t say he wasn’t riding the next day. not sure if you know who he is but you know he dropping sick stuff a couple day later.

It is an interesting conversation regardless, the article below is referencing Event insurance, which yes, is different than you are my employer insurance. However, these riders are not full-time employees. Which sponsor takes the cost for medical? Your drink sponsor (red bull), your clothing, shoe, frame, or component? We know insurance coverage isn't coming from the company that gives you a bars and stem. So the "title sponsor" could easily say "you are paying insurance, so why should we".


I remember Tyler McCaul coming in 5th place in 2013 and telling me that he could barely cover his whole trip with his earnings. In 2014 Kyle Strait was awarded $4,000 for his 4th place result, leaving just $1,000 take home after his expenses for two weeks in the desert. At an hourly rate that's probably worse than minimum wage. This year Cam Zink made just $3,000 for his 6th place finish, and the pay scale falls off fast after that. Many riders in the Top 10 couldn't even cover their gas expenses with the pennies they made for their efforts. Perhaps the biggest of all, the riders are not covered by an event insurance policy. ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

This is MADNESS.

How can Red Bull do this to the best in our sport in good conscience? It's literally costing the Pros money to hurl themselves down the gnarliest mountain Red Bull could find, and they're not covered if they fall.

That's blatant exploitation. Seriously. And it's to the point where riders are facing more potential for worse injuries. Riders must bring their own insurance to the event, and are then required to sign a liability waiver freeing Red Bull of any responsibility.
Yeah, it's pretty sickening how little they get paid compared to some of the top road cyclist, but being sponsored by raceface or whatever isn't quite the same as being sponsored by Mercedes. It's also a tough sport to spectate. You can't bring 50,000 people to watch a downhill race, and even if you do they are just walking up the hill for free, so the only way to create a big payout is hike the reg fees up to thousands of dollars per event. Then the only racers that are going to show up are the ones that are already making money. Gwinn was the highest paid MTB'r at one time and something like 97% of his income came from sponsors and advertising endorsements. Fabio made millions by creating content, starting his own production company, merchandising, etc. There's def some redbull perks in there but he wouldn't be sitting high if he only raced. It is indeed a fucked up sport.
 
…as you post a meme to an Internet forum lol
What does throwing up a meme have to do with you pretending to be an actions sports agent with behind the scenes knowledge of Aaron Gwins contract or any professional athlete’s health insurance coverage?

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Referencing @Norm 's comment earlier in the thread. "Corliss himself". Dude man is not right, even self diagnosing his psychological disorder.
 
What does throwing up a meme have to do with you pretending to be an actions sports agent with behind the scenes knowledge of Aaron Gwins contract or any professional athlete’s health insurance coverage?

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Did you find anything that shows that they do get insurance from sponsors? I am not an expert but I just don’t think it is structured that way and showed examples of it.
 
Drew Benzanson was seriously injured in a car crash last Fall. I don't recall anything about insurance, but he has posted on Red Bull's positive support, and stated they pay his full salary while he recovers.

Not exactly on-point, but maybe parallel?
 
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