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BPaze said:
Welcome to the hard tail family they are a blast
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I don't think I "prefer" the Marley over my Hightower. On a DH, there is no way the Marley will come close to the Hightower. The FS has a much more secure feeling which gives you the confidence to go faster.

Even on the climbs, with a hardtail, I feel like you need a steady and consistent pedaling, more so than a FS, to not to over torque and slip the rear tire. I am way more conscious of the rear on the Marley than I do on the Hightower.

I've been riding the Marley with the I DGAF attitude. Hitting rock gardens at speeds I previously thought were not safe. What I am discovering is that at a higher speed, the bike kinda floats over them. If I can translate this on to the FS... it will be another experience.

The problem is.... I don't have the fitness to ride fast LOL
 
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GreenMachine said:
Yeah he can be preachy .
He says NP low BB pedal strikes not great for 27.5 either .
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He comments negatively on things that does not fit his body type and his trails. Unfortunately, not everyone has his body type or ride Sedona or where ever he is.

But anyways... I do appreciate his input on how the frame feels. I paid attention to ride qualities of a frame before pulling the trigger. Altho he didn't review the Marley but he did reviews on Ragley alu and steel frames.
 
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Paul H said:
He comments negatively on things that does not fit his body type and his trails. Unfortunately, not everyone has his body type or ride Sedona or where ever he is.

But anyways... I do appreciate his input on how the frame feels. I paid attention to ride qualities of a frame before pulling the trigger. Altho he didn't review the Marley but he did reviews on Ragley alu and steel frames.
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Yes said the carbon SC chameleon was a shit ride -V Alu - interestingly Santa Cruz discontinued it in 22’.

Good point on Sedona - he’s riding rock slabs in every video.
 
Like Paul said, Steve is very opinionated as speaks as to his build. He’s 5’6 with a long torso and short legs. Obviously his fit requirements are not going to work for most men. But he is full of great information and I learned a lot about hardtails as a result. I even bought my Ibis hardtail based partially on his review. He expressed an interest on test riding the Turner when I posted mine on Instagram. So far no Turner review. Hopefully he can borrow one from David Turner to test at some point. As to frame materials, another point Steve makes is frame design counts for a lot so material only tells part of the story. So many choices out there @GreenMachine . Have fun in your search. I’m hooked on hardtails so I’m biased.
 
Victor I said:
Like Paul said, Steve is very opinionated as speaks as to his build. He’s 5’6 with a long torso and short legs. Obviously his fit requirements are not going to work for most men. But he is full of great information and I learned a lot about hardtails as a result. I even bought my Ibis hardtail based partially on his review. He expressed an interest on test riding the Turner when I posted mine on Instagram. So far no Turner review. Hopefully he can borrow one from David Turner to test at some point. As to frame materials, another point Steve makes is frame design counts for a lot so material only tells part of the story. So many choices out there @GreenMachine . Have fun in your search. I’m hooked on hardtails so I’m biased.
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Good stuff Victor as always !
I’m a fan of his channel .
 
Every bike I've ever bought has been solely based on a quick spin around the lot at the bike shop. With the exception of the Giant Stance I bought, it's never let me down. So I'm 5-1 to the good.
 
I’ve bought sight unseen my past 4 mountain bikes and got lucky. Like Paul said(see a pattern here😁), gotta do the research. No guarantees as to fit but between seat positioning, stems and handlebars lots of ways to adjust. The only bike that I never got used to was my Hightower as the rear suspension was just too cushy for my taste(great downhill over chunk though). Easier at least with a hardtail as no rear suspension to worry about dialing in… Demo days are helpful as well as it helps one figure out what they like as well as don’t like. Ironically I had test rode the entire Santa Cruz lineup at except the Hightower 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
Another thought, many of us old school riders have to adjust to the modern lower bottom bracket and ratcheting involved on full suspension bikes. I rarely ratchet on a hardtail as no rear sag. Then again I’m up off the seat most of the time in north NJ parks. Advantages and disadvantages to everything. @GreenMachine you have perfect terrain down your way for a hardtail
 
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Victor I said:
Another thought, any of us old school riders have to adjust to the modern lower bottom bracket and ratcheting involved on full suspension bikes. I rarely ratchet on a hardtail as no rear sag. Then again I’m up off the seat most of the time in north NJ parks. Advantages and disadvantages to everything. @GreenMachine you have perfect terrain down your way for a hardtail
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I don't remember getting pedal strikes on the Marley... but the plus tires also bring up the BB however small it may be.

My Hightower and previous bikes were bought with at least after a ride around the parking lot.

RDO was purchased sight unseen as a frame.

Marley was also ordered sight unseen as a frame.

Axum... didn't care lol
 
Victor I said:
Another thought, many of us old school riders have to adjust to the modern lower bottom bracket and ratcheting involved on full suspension bikes. I rarely ratchet on a hardtail as no rear sag. Then again I’m up off the seat most of the time in north NJ parks. Advantages and disadvantages to everything. @GreenMachine you have perfect terrain down your way for a hardtail
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We need some north Jersey rocks in central/ south.
I should have never left Bergen Cty .

I was riding a rigid Mukluk for awhile - you’re right perfect trails for it south of exit 142 parkway .
 
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