Stan's "On Tap"

The breakeven point on this thing is...high. If you're going through a 1L bottle a day it would take you 1-1.5 years or so. Long term investment I suppose, even better if you can refill your old bottles for a slight discount.
 
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Cassinonorth said:
The breakeven point on this thing is...high. If you're going through a 1L bottle a day it would take you 1-1.5 years or so. Long term investment I suppose, even better if you can refill your old bottles for a slight discount.
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There's a convenience factor for bike shops. Always having it on-tap and not having to deal with a ton of bottles, refilling smaller bottles and it's always shaken ready to go.
 
Santapez said:
There's a convenience factor for bike shops. Always having it on-tap and not having to deal with a ton of bottles, refilling smaller bottles and it's always shaken ready to go.
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It doesn’t get any more convenient than the little single serve bottles. We use them for refills over the syringe and bottle method. Time = more profits for the private equity firms.
 
Steve Vai said:
It doesn’t get any more convenient than the little single serve bottles. We use them for refills over the syringe and bottle method. Time = more profits for the private equity firms.
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I'm surprised. Stan gave us a lifetime* supply of those bottles when we were at the factory. I find each one of them takes time as I have to shake them, open them, take out the seal, put the cap back on and then use it. And if it's a new tire that I would just dump in between the bead and rim it's not a time saver at all to just pouring from a bottle.

With the injector and that On Tap it seems you'd just pull out the plunger, fill to the level you need and then put the plunger back in.

*I'm running low and broke down and bought a larger bottle the other day...
 
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Santapez said:
I'm surprised. Stan gave us a lifetime* supply of those bottles when we were at the factory. I find each one of them takes time as I have to shake them, open them, take out the seal, put the cap back on and then use it. And if it's a new tire that I would just dump in between the bead and rim it's not a time saver at all to just pouring from a bottle.

With the injector and that On Tap it seems you'd just pull out the plunger, fill to the level you need and then put the plunger back in.

*I'm running low and broke down and bought a larger bottle the other day...
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honestly, with the injector i find that most of the time i dont even need to put the plunger back it, it works like a giant funnel and is drained into the tire before i even get the plunger back in . . .
 
Santapez said:
I'm surprised. Stan gave us a lifetime* supply of those bottles when we were at the factory. I find each one of them takes time as I have to shake them, open them, take out the seal, put the cap back on and then use it. And if it's a new tire that I would just dump in between the bead and rim it's not a time saver at all to just pouring from a bottle.

With the injector and that On Tap it seems you'd just pull out the plunger, fill to the level you need and then put the plunger back in.

*I'm running low and broke down and bought a larger bottle the other day...
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Yeah, but it’s easier for a customer to see what you actually used so there’s no confusion. Also, most tires you have to seat before you put sealant in through the valve. MTB tires you can dump in while installing but for road you’ll blow most of all over the shop when you seat the tire.
 
Yeah... I tried the "pour sealant into the tire before beading" thing once and it was a effing messy disaster. Oddly enough the first tire I set up tubeless myself was at the Stans tent at Windham with Stan himself tutoring me. He used the little bottles (2 per tire for DH) through the stem with the core removed after seating the tire. That's basically what I've done ever since.

I could see having a setup like this for a shop or a race team where you're installing tires almost every day. It's not meant for a consumer and I'm guessing it would be hard for a normal consumer to even buy one and the refills.
 
Ian F said:
Yeah... I tried the "pour sealant into the tire before beading" thing once and it was a effing messy disaster. Oddly enough the first tire I set up tubeless myself was at the Stans tent at Windham with Stan himself tutoring me. He used the little bottles (2 per tire for DH) through the stem with the core removed after seating the tire. That's basically what I've done ever since.

I could see having a setup like this for a shop or a race team where you're installing tires almost every day. It's not meant for a consumer and I'm guessing it would be hard for a normal consumer to even buy one and the refills.
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Um yeah, I make sure I seat the bead first, or it's a tire that I'm swapping from one wheel to another. Because I've had that disaster of pouring in sealant in a new tire that won't seat and then the mess.

I don't now the price of this thing but I'm sure shops are paying way less than any list price unless it truly is B2B only. I'm not sure Stan's would even want to make a profit on this as much as get them into shops so they're buying refills of their sealant vs a competitor.
 
One of the selling points is less plastic waste. Even using 1L bottles I can only imagine how many of those a busy shop can go through.
 
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