Kaleidopete
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"I quite myself" I don't get it?
E-bikes are a thing
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Victor I
aka Ridgehog
Well look at who’s minding the lift 😁
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For Killington there is a trail access pass and a lift ticket. Obviously the trail pass isn’t valid for the lift. I am fairly confident you could ride around all day without a trail pass and not be questioned. Would probably be the case at most ski hills.
Ian F
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Probably, as the idea of having to monitor riders who didn't get a lift pass would be something of a new thing for management to deal with. However, I wouldn't expect that to last long. Why? Well, there's that other part of the process when you get a lift pass - signing that release form. Without doing that, riding the trails could be considered trespassing at some/most mountains.
Burke Mtn at Kingdom is like that. While I know it's possible to self-shuttle to the top of the toll road and ride down, when you look at a Kingdom Trails map, all of the DH trails in the bike park technically need a specific pass from the resort to ride on.
Ride Kanuga is definitely one of the "new idea" bike parks where having an e-bike would be a benefit. Sure, you can ride there without one and have fun, but an e-bike would probably mean more runs.
More local to us, Spring Mtn in PA fits that bill as well. There is a partly paved road to the top of the mtn that would be perfect for self-shuttling on an e-bike. Hell, when they did try running the lift at that mtn years ago, it was so friggen slow an e-bike would probably be faster. Glen Park is another trail system well suited to riding an e-bike on. Side benefit is both trail systems are free to ride whenever.
I definitely want an e-bike as some point, but right now I see the technology improving so fast that buying one now wouldn't be cost effective. My gut says things will stabilize in a few years. There's probably a 50% chance I'm wrong, but as mentioned, I'm happy with my current fleet so I'm fine with waiting.
Good post.
My thoughts on this subject as it pertains to going up & down hills with this thing:
1. Will the e-bike be as fun & nimble going down some of these runs?
2. Will is be able to take the abuse?
3. At the end of the day, what is the yearly maintenance on this going to cost?
These are pretty important questions to me. Like you, I am pretty sure my future has some E in it. But the price point, fun factor, reliability, and maintenance fees are certainly something I need to assess here.
Ian F
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1. Hard to say... "nimble" means different things to different people. I consider my Megatower to be fairly nimble (especially if I run it with clipless), but at the same time I'm used to it. To someone else it might feel like an unwieldy monster truck.
2. I think the jury is still out on this one as far as the long-term durability of e-bikes is concerned.
3. Same as above, although I wouldn't think it'll be that much more than a regular enduro or DH bike. Maybe have to change the gearbox oil once a year, but I wouldn't consider that a deal-breaker (says the guy with 8 cars...).
Steve Vai
Endurance Guy: Tolerates most of us.
Just for shits and giggles I did an Apples to Apples spec'ed Ebike VS my REEB. There's a 4k difference between these 2 examples but it's getting pretty damn close as far as weight and performance to an Analog MTB...
Both of these are 130/140 with full XX1 AXS groups. Beefier fork on the Levo.
(Also, my Sqweeb is filled with water here so I may need to weigh it again)
Both of these are 130/140 with full XX1 AXS groups. Beefier fork on the Levo.
(Also, my Sqweeb is filled with water here so I may need to weigh it again)
The Kalmyk
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Nah Pete i dont believe that.
I’m ok with my opinion lying somewhere between reality and ignorance.
Kaleidopete
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quit, not quite
rick81721
Lothar
quote, not quit or quite
JerseyPete
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JerseyPete
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Regarding E-bikes, is there a standard yet for the battery connections, charge ports, or generic size compartments? Are quick swaps available?
Or are the manufacturers making it all brand proprietary?
Or are the manufacturers making it all brand proprietary?
Considering the new Norco Range is 37 lbs for an "enduro bike", that's insanely light.
That's just too funny.
Nothing is compatible and everything will change on next year's model. Just like everything else in this industry.
For Specialized alone, just to do firmware updates, some bikes require a special connector, some are mini-usb, some are micro-usb. All are just plugging to the TCU. Why not make them all the same?
Batteries will keep getting physically smaller, which I get, so they will never be backwards compatible.
Only saw 3 other riders out at CR today. So 50% ebikes, 50% analog.
JerseyPete
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For the most part, the leading motor manufacturers are Shimano and Bosch?
Ian F
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True. My Megatower is about 36 lbs. but other than eeWings cranks, it wasn't really built with weight savings in mind considering the DH tires @ about 3 lbs. each along with DH wheels and Saint brakes.
sundaydoug
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Not to quote you out of context, but I feel this needs emphasis.
I can't help but think about what someone could do with the extra four thousand dollars.
Specialized are all Brose which as of right now seem to be the most powerful and quietest at the same time.
They can go from a DX to an LX on their next Honda or get a carbon hubcap for their Porsche. These are all first world problems. People will ultimately vote with their wallets and for the past few years, even pre-covid. Specialized couldn't keep the S Works versions in stock.