This Thread Blows - C19 and beyond

discussed earlier but still WTF funny. The other guys were pissed that they left too haha WHAT seriously?

"Sometimes I think Florida gets a bad rap. After all, it’s got that beautiful turquoise water, those soft white-sand beaches. Surely it can’t be as bad as its Florida Man reputation, right?
Then I see a video on Twitter of a man pretending a bright-red thong counts as a face mask for air travel, and suddenly the reputation makes sense."

https://jalopnik.com/please-dont-wear-a-thong-as-a-mask-on-planes-you-will-1848234917
 
thegock said:
Whenever I read "Gotta get back to normal," it translates in my mind to "let's ignore science and pretend that it's just the flu."
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It pretty much is "just" the flu now that we have treatments and covid shots and lessons learned. And Omicron is looking like it is similar to the common cold. Many of us have been back to normal for quite a while now
 
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Regardless of things going back to normal I'm happy keeping my distance from people.
 
"It pretty much is "just" the flu now that we have treatments and covid shots and lessons learned. And Omicron is looking like it is similar to the common cold. "

@bergsnj

Worldometers

Using the total death graph below the table in the above link we can compute the C19 dead bodies in the US over the last year to be 480,151. That’s about 14.4 times the average annual deaths in the US from the flu over the last 10 years. Not like the flu for the last year would be my conclusion. But maybe you're right and it "...will be gone by Easter."

Hospitalizations

“With coronavirus hospitalizations increasing 20 percent nationally over the last two weeks, to 68,000 people, doctors and nurses are speaking with renewed alarm about conditions and pleading with people to get vaccinated.”

The increase in hospitalizations drives the future increase in deaths with a lag of a couple of weeks. The current 7DMA of dead bodies is 1,215 according to worldometers above link. Annualized that would be over 443k. NYT has the death rate increasing 23% in the last two weeks. It seems that hospitalizations and dead bodies are on the upswing.

You may be correct about omicron C19 being less severe, however, if it is twice (NYT column that I couldn’t quickly locate) as contagious as delta C19, it would have to be half as fatal to cause the same number of deaths. Unless my math is flawed. Hopefully, the treatments we have now are more effective, but I am not going to try to predict the future.

That being said, can you recall the last time three NFL games were rescheduled?
 
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My 4 year old got sent home from school Monday for close exposure to a kid that tested positive for covid in his class. Well, two kids so far that he was exposed to. Got swabbed for a PCR yesterday, no results back. So gave him a rapid at home because his brother's birthday party is tomorrow. It's a negative so far. The rapid is from family in the UK that brought them over during a visit earlier in the month. NHS just gives them a ton of the things for free. Kinda neat.PXL_20211214_214141768.jpg
 
bergsnj said:
It pretty much is "just" the flu now that we have treatments and covid shots and lessons learned. And Omicron is looking like it is similar to the common cold. Many of us have been back to normal for quite a while now
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Not normal things:
Having to wear a mask in trains/airplanes
Having to show vaccine cards in NYC
Having to wear a mask in certain indoor venues
Handshakes, kissing in cheek and general
greetings are different now
Office 2/3 empty
Limited in person work meetings
 
thegock said:
"It pretty much is "just" the flu now that we have treatments and covid shots and lessons learned. And Omicron is looking like it is similar to the common cold. "

@bergsnj

Worldometers

Using the total death graph below the table in the above link we can compute the C19 dead bodies in the US over the last year to be 480,151. That’s about 14.4 times the average annual deaths in the US from the flu over the last 10 years. Not like the flu for the last year would be my conclusion. But maybe you're right and it "...will be gone by Easter."

Hospitalizations

“With coronavirus hospitalizations increasing 20 percent nationally over the last two weeks, to 68,000 people, doctors and nurses are speaking with renewed alarm about conditions and pleading with people to get vaccinated.”

The increase in hospitalizations drives the future increase in deaths with a lag of a couple of weeks. The current 7DMA of dead bodies is 1,215 according to worldometers above link. Annualized that would be over 443k. NYT has the death rate increasing 23% in the last two weeks. It seems that hospitalizations and dead bodies are on the upswing.

You may be correct about omicron C19 being less severe, however, if it is twice (NYT column that I couldn’t quickly locate) as contagious as delta C19, it would have to be half as fatal to cause the same number of deaths. Unless my math is flawed. Hopefully, the treatments we have now are more effective, but I am not going to try to predict the future.

That being said, can you recall the last time three NFL games were rescheduled?
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The claim is omicron is more like the flu, not previous variants. Comparing deaths earlier this year with previous variants and most of the country not vaccinated to what will happen in the future with many more vaccinated and a less virulent dominant strain is silly. Your math is seriously flawed.

PS the NFL postponing games because healthy players (btw 67% are vaccinated and having mild or no symptoms) are testing positive is ridiculous.
 
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rick81721 said:
The claim is omicron is more like the flu, not previous variants. Comparing deaths earlier this year with previous variants and most of the country not vaccinated to what will happen in the future with many more vaccinated and a less virulent dominant strain is silly. Your math is seriously flawed.

PS the NFL postponing games because healthy players (btw 67% are vaccinated and having mild or no symptoms) are testing positive is ridiculous.
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“Just like the fluidiots”

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Using the total death graph below the table in the link we can compute the C19 dead bodies in the US over the last year to be 480,151. That’s about 14.4 times the average annual deaths in the US from the flu over the last 10 years.

I CHECKED THE MATH ABOVE WITH MY HP12C AND IT IS SPOT ON, BUT FEEL FREE TO USE YOUR “BIG TOOTHPASTE” SKILZ AND POINT OUT THE FLAW TO WHICH YOU ALUDE.

The increase in hospitalizations drives the future increase in deaths with a lag of a couple of weeks. The current 7DMA of dead bodies is 1,215 according to worldometers above link. Annualized that would be over 443k.

I CHECKED THE MATH ABOVE WITH MY HP12C AND IT IS SPOT ON.

You may be correct about omicron C19 being less severe, however, if it is twice (NYT column that I couldn’t quickly locate) as contagious as delta C19, it would have to be half as fatal to cause the same number of deaths. Unless my math is flawed.

https://www.deseret.com/coronavirus/2021/12/17/22841186/omicron-variant-r-value-number-cases-double

My assumption about the rate of transmission was wrong. The above link provides an estimate of three to five for the rate of transmission. The article goes on to say that Omicron could spread 70 times faster than the Delta variant.

Finally, I checked with Dr. Joe, asking him whether Omicron is “just like the flu.” After editorializing about the lack of scientific acumen of whoever would say that, he explained that the new mutation might tend toward the common cold in terms of fatalities, but that would take quite a bit of time.

P.S. Today's sports news:

“Due to COVID-19 protocols and out of an abundance of caution, the Saturday, Dec. 18 game against Rider at Jersey Mike’s Arena will be rescheduled to a later date.

Note: Every member of Rutgers men’s basketball is fully vaccinated."​

 
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thegock said:
“Just like the fluidiots”

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Using the total death graph below the table in the link we can compute the C19 dead bodies in the US over the last year to be 480,151. That’s about 14.4 times the average annual deaths in the US from the flu over the last 10 years.

I CHECKED THE MATH ABOVE WITH MY HP12C AND IT IS SPOT ON, BUT FEEL FREE TO USE YOUR “BIG TOOTHPASTE” SKILZ AND POINT OUT THE FLAW TO WHICH YOU ALUDE.

The increase in hospitalizations drives the future increase in deaths with a lag of a couple of weeks. The current 7DMA of dead bodies is 1,215 according to worldometers above link. Annualized that would be over 443k.

I CHECKED THE MATH ABOVE WITH MY HP12C AND IT IS SPOT ON.

You may be correct about omicron C19 being less severe, however, if it is twice (NYT column that I couldn’t quickly locate) as contagious as delta C19, it would have to be half as fatal to cause the same number of deaths. Unless my math is flawed.

https://www.deseret.com/coronavirus/2021/12/17/22841186/omicron-variant-r-value-number-cases-double

My assumption about the rate of transmission was wrong. The above link provides an estimate of three to five for the rate of transmission. The article goes on to say that Omicron could spread 70 times faster than the Delta variant.

Finally, I checked with Dr. Joe, asking him whether Omicron is “just like the flu.” After editorializing about the lack of scientific acumen of whoever would say that, he explained that the new mutation might tend toward the common cold in terms of fatalities, but that would take quite a bit of time.

P.S. Today's sports news:

“Due to COVID-19 protocols and out of an abundance of caution, the Saturday, Dec. 18 game against Rider at Jersey Mike’s Arena will be rescheduled to a later date.

Note: Every member of Rutgers men’s basketball is fully vaccinated."​

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Your "math" predicts the current death rate will continue unabated for 52 straight weeks. Complete nonsense. See worldometer graph to see how the death rates ebb and flow. The peak Jan 15 of this year (with very few vaccinated) was 3500/day. Then it quickly declined.

And your reading comprehension is worse than your math. "More like the flu" does not equal "just like the flu".
 
rick81721 said:
Most mid-atlantic/northeast states setting records for most new cases in one day. Our family xmas dinner at our niece's house was just canceled - their 19 year old son tested positive.
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I thought we were supposed to be ignoring this and getting back to normal?
 
I heard two of my nephews are now positive. One was vaxxed and the other not. They live together and work together as well.
 
Bike N Gear said:
Yeah. He's to blame for not fixing everything the last guy F'd up. If tRump didn't totally politicize this thing the majority of the country would have been vaxed long ago.
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Right - it was Trump and Pence who were hesitant about the vaccine last fall, not Brandon and Harris. Brandon kept making the above idiotic claim - now he has to eat his words.

PS we already have the majority of the country vaccinated - 73% with at least one dose - same as most EU countries. We were never getting to 90%. And even if we did, omicron would still be raging.
 
rick81721 said:
Right - it was Trump and Pence who were hesitant about the vaccine last fall, not Brandon and Harris. Brandon kept making the above idiotic claim - now he has to eat his words.

PS we already have the majority of the country vaccinated - 73% with at least one dose - same as most EU countries. We were never getting to 90%. And even if we did, omicron would still be raging.
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Individuals Fully Vaccinated Per 100 People​



Gibraltar

97.5%
United Arab Emirates

90.3%
Portugal

89.0%
Brunei

87.3%
Singapore

87.0%
Chile

85.4%
Cayman Islands

84.9%
Malta

84.2%
Cuba

83.8%
Iceland

82.4%
South Korea

82.0%
Spain

80.8%
China

80.5%
Cambodia

80.2%
Seychelles

79.1%
Japan

78.0%
Malaysia

77.9%
Faeroe Islands

77.8%
Denmark

77.5%
Canada

76.9%
Chart: U.S. News & World Report Source: Our World in Data
 
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