Tariffs...what to make of them.

UtahJoe said:
I mean this is reality.....we are planning on having south korea build ships for us....I mean shipbuilding.....The same country that once built 9000 war vessels during wwii...we can't even find enough people to build our own warships...and these high paying jobs. My point being....I am highly skeptical of our ability to reshore manufacturing.....We can't even build ships for our navy.

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Basically Philly shipyard hasn’t really produced anything in years. The ship fitters were in the UA which I belong to so in the 90 ‘s when there was not much going on my local and 3 other local took them in according to where they lived. Just trying to train pipefitters and welders would take 5 years. Just like house building not to many American young adults don’t want to do this work. I was one of the full time plumbing instructors. When I retired I went to a local vo-tech to teach high school students I quit after 30 days. I only had 3 students who wanted to learn the remainder wanted to bake, cook or do hair like reality tv. The pay was good for me $34 an hour with benefits and I would have had another pension wasn’t worth it. I think they should bring shop class back to middle school. Instead of trying to prepare everyone for college.
 
I think that all folks should work hourly wage stuff for at least a year or two after they emerge from high school. If they decide that they wish to do something that requires more education, they can then choose to go to college, and will hopefully be more serious about actually studying.
 
Santapez said:
100%

Shop type classes should never have been removed. I would easily say they have a higher value than the Freshman/Sophomore general classes in college that have nothing to do with actual degrees
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I used to have to go to Washtenaw Community College for UA instructor training. Now I will make a short point it was more like a technical school and a trade school which you would graduate with an associate's degree with your vocation. The campus where the school's footprint was bigger than Stocktons less the dorms. The list os the vocations would be too big to list.
 
John the Plumber said:
I used to have to go to Washtenaw Community College for UA instructor training. Now I will make a short point it was more like a technical school and a trade school which you would graduate with an associate's degree with your vocation. The campus where the school's footprint was bigger than Stocktons less the dorms. The list os the vocations would be too big to list.
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I wonder if that's the college I got some credits in after apprenticeship at the Edward R Gehm training center in hazlet. I remember they gave us credits towards a degree, but I never did anything with them.
 
Patrick said:
@olegbabich - your perspective is very important to me.
hard to look at it from the inside - you can look at it from outside.

can you comment on non-english news perspectives?
maybe some links to places you like where we can do a translate
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I watch a lot of Russian content on Youtube.

Most now focus on Ukraine and there is a lot of bias on most channels.

Russian forums are mostly a shit show just like here. Ukranians and Russins shiting on each other.

Use auto translate to English subtitles.

https://www.youtube.com/@redactsiya -
Very Balanced and covers a lot of news from Russia -

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Mostly deals with Military analysis - Pro Russian

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I asked this question yesterday Japan has $1 trillion in treasury securities and China has $760 billion in Us Treasury Bonds. What happens if they dump them to our economy ?
 
UtahJoe said:
im not sure why you or anyone else continues to argue this point....everyone is QUITE aware that the base of each party is as devoted as a college football fan and exists solely to see the other team lose.....The other side losing feels better than their own team winning....that is what we are living in....If your desire is to see the two sides be nice to each other again.....I mean I would suggest waking up from that fantasy.
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So y'all can keep bringing up this point but I can't shoot it down as a meaningless argument for all the points you made? What's good for thee not good for me?

If everyone is so aware then just stop using this as filler.
 
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Norm said:
The current administration ran a campaign in swing states based on sheer hatred of trans athletes/people. Having spent some time in a swing state, this platform was strong. It was relentless in the media there. There was literally no other item on the political agenda.

The current administration won those swing states on that platform. The OP you are aggressively responding to has come to the quite logical conclusion that this is pretty fucking disturbing, and the people who voted for the current administration based on that are, by extension, pretty fucking disturbing.

The current administration ran on a platform of exclusion and hate. Perhaps I can grant you that these people can think critically. Let's just assume for the sake of this argument that every single voter in Ohio can think as critically as any of us. The logical conclusion you can easily draw from this is that their logic values minorities, immigrants, the trans community, women, or any non-white person as inferior. There were women in these states openly saying that a woman should never be president.

While this does not categorize every single Ohio conservative, it does swing the pendulum enough such that we are where we are.

Random thinking out loud: I also suspect that you did not grow up in a wealthy area. Let's be clear, I grew up poor. I went to a high school that was pretty much bottom 5% in the state. We had no money. We entertained ourselves by banging rocks together. While a lot of these people are, "My people," I have grown enough to know that "my people" are wrong.
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Norm, come on, all I pointed out was that categorizing a large swath of people as poorly educated, unable to think critically, and unable to think outside their own local point of view is insensitive. Nothing else.

Worded differently: categorizing a large group of people w/ similar traits as negative this and negative that and negative more stuff is insensitive. What is wrong w/ that statement?

If you are taking that to mean I'm against trans folks being treated equally as human beings w/ the same rights as everyone else, then you are imparting some sort of bias you have about me that is undeserved, as far as I can tell. Not sure what I did to you or anyone else to generate such bias.
 
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