Skis or snowboard?

I skied until 15, then have been snowboarding ever since. It's harder to learn, but so much fun. Keep it up. It does take a good few days to a week to pick it up. Then just keep doing it & you'll keep progressing.

same here. stopped two-planking in 1988. been on a snowboard since. i'm pretty much done progressing. i can't do rails and don't want to. 30ft. kickers scare the sh!t out of me. none of this stuff existed when i started.

stick me in the steeps and give me some moguls/trees/chutes/etc and i'll be smiles all day long.
 
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At the time I started, I was racing and riding BMX, skateboarding and listening to punk rock and snowboarding just fit. I did take some ski lessons but got so fustrated with it - it seemed there was only one way to make turns - at least from the instructors point of view. This is in the late 80's were skiing was so structured. Snowboarding was just young and raw and had more of a bmx/skateboard feel to it with sponsored riders like Craig Kelly, Shawn Palmer, Terry Kidwell doing contests and just getting rad. I'd see another kid snowboarding at the mtn and you'd just start riding together.

I went to college in VT and brought skis and my board and ended up selling the skis to buy new bindings for my board as I never used them once. What made it tough was all my friends skied. There was not one other snowboarder in my class and it wasn't until senior year that I rode with another one. At times it was a pita as they would want to ride bumps all day but I was pretty much just learning so I just went followed along. I have to say I did learn how to ride bumps and trees pretty well as they were all very good skiers.

Looking back, it might have been easier for me to just learn to ski - hell it would have been nice not to hear the "knuckle dragger" comments or how snowboarding ruined the mtns and all that other crap. But for me, snowboarding is where it's at. So ripping off Snowboarder mag here's my little list...

Fresh:
- Switch. I didn't think it was that big of a deal because years ago I just rode left foot forward all the time. But being able to ride switch stance is something skiing cannot duplicate.
- Press/Butter. I'm still learning but add this to riding switch and you can have fun even on a bunnyslope. I wish I could add it to rails as when I see it done it looks dope!
- Grabs. Yeah, I know skiiers can grab a ski in the air and all but they cannot replicate on any level the amount of style a decent Stale (not to mention a proper boned Method) can produce.
- Rails. I can't do them for sh1t but anytime I see a skiier on rails it just looks off. Not saying it doesn't take skill but a skiier will never duplicate the look of a nice front board.
- Pow. It's almost like snowboards were made for riding powder. Nowhere has a great section of bindingless riding in pow (which could add another fresh reason) by NyVelt which is amazing.

Tracked:
- The scene/how big snowboarding is. Overall I guess it's good and the level of talent is amazing but I'm just glad I got to experience the 'growing' stages off it.
- Flats. At certain mtns like Stowe, where I know where everything dumps out to and where everything flows fall line snowboarding is without headache. But man, try to ride some big western mtns and traversing to get to some new terrain on flats sucks.
- Race. Snowboards just don't look right racing thru gates unless its the Banked Slalom at Mt Baker.
- Ice. Ice sucks no matter what but I think skis definitely do better on the slick stuff. But with tech like Lib tech's MagneTraction it's making it a little easier to handle on snowboards.
- Backcountry. With traversing and climbing skis defintely edge out snowboards. And a good skiier ripping down a steep chute looks so rad. But once a snowboarder gets to a zone and can drop in - watch out - see a Travis Rice, Terje or big mtn Jeremy Jones and see what I'm talking about.

That all being said both skiing and snowboarding are great activities - just do what you think is the most fun. :thumbs:
 
If women are to be factored into the equation, look no further than the snowboard. I've never ridden one, but walking around the base with a board in hand has a magical effect on the ladies. Or just tell them you run the groomer at night, that works well too.
 
i came from a skateboarding background and it was a shock to my system the first time I snowboarded. The second time you go it will be better, the third better than that...

Until you get to the advanced extreme level, skiing is just plain ghey. Stick with the snowboard.
 
yeah I don't think there is a single correlation between skateboarding and snowboarding. Skiing probably helps more as you at least can understand how snow works at speed.
 
yeah I don't think there is a single correlation between skateboarding and snowboarding. Skiing probably helps more as you at least can understand how snow works at speed.

For me it was the lack of fear of speed on the snow that helped me progress on the snowboard from skiing. But I'm still sticking to my two planks 😀
 
yeah I don't think there is a single correlation between skateboarding and snowboarding. Skiing probably helps more as you at least can understand how snow works at speed.

i agree. but surfing and snowboarding (in deep pow) share some similarities.
 
don, having come up in snowboarding during this time, your post is absolutely perfect. The only hole i can poke in this entire post is that you didn't mention Lamar or that Palmer was riding hard boots in the pipe. 🙂

At the time I started, I was racing and riding BMX, skateboarding and listening to punk rock and snowboarding just fit. I did take some ski lessons but got so fustrated with it - it seemed there was only one way to make turns - at least from the instructors point of view. This is in the late 80's were skiing was so structured. Snowboarding was just young and raw and had more of a bmx/skateboard feel to it with sponsored riders like Craig Kelly, Shawn Palmer, Terry Kidwell doing contests and just getting rad. I'd see another kid snowboarding at the mtn and you'd just start riding together.

I went to college in VT and brought skis and my board and ended up selling the skis to buy new bindings for my board as I never used them once. What made it tough was all my friends skied. There was not one other snowboarder in my class and it wasn't until senior year that I rode with another one. At times it was a pita as they would want to ride bumps all day but I was pretty much just learning so I just went followed along. I have to say I did learn how to ride bumps and trees pretty well as they were all very good skiers.

Looking back, it might have been easier for me to just learn to ski - hell it would have been nice not to hear the "knuckle dragger" comments or how snowboarding ruined the mtns and all that other crap. But for me, snowboarding is where it's at. So ripping off Snowboarder mag here's my little list...

Fresh:
- Switch. I didn't think it was that big of a deal because years ago I just rode left foot forward all the time. But being able to ride switch stance is something skiing cannot duplicate.
- Press/Butter. I'm still learning but add this to riding switch and you can have fun even on a bunnyslope. I wish I could add it to rails as when I see it done it looks dope!
- Grabs. Yeah, I know skiiers can grab a ski in the air and all but they cannot replicate on any level the amount of style a decent Stale (not to mention a proper boned Method) can produce.
- Rails. I can't do them for sh1t but anytime I see a skiier on rails it just looks off. Not saying it doesn't take skill but a skiier will never duplicate the look of a nice front board.
- Pow. It's almost like snowboards were made for riding powder. Nowhere has a great section of bindingless riding in pow (which could add another fresh reason) by NyVelt which is amazing.

Tracked:
- The scene/how big snowboarding is. Overall I guess it's good and the level of talent is amazing but I'm just glad I got to experience the 'growing' stages off it.
- Flats. At certain mtns like Stowe, where I know where everything dumps out to and where everything flows fall line snowboarding is without headache. But man, try to ride some big western mtns and traversing to get to some new terrain on flats sucks.
- Race. Snowboards just don't look right racing thru gates unless its the Banked Slalom at Mt Baker.
- Ice. Ice sucks no matter what but I think skis definitely do better on the slick stuff. But with tech like Lib tech's MagneTraction it's making it a little easier to handle on snowboards.
- Backcountry. With traversing and climbing skis defintely edge out snowboards. And a good skiier ripping down a steep chute looks so rad. But once a snowboarder gets to a zone and can drop in - watch out - see a Travis Rice, Terje or big mtn Jeremy Jones and see what I'm talking about.

That all being said both skiing and snowboarding are great activities - just do what you think is the most fun. :thumbs:
 
After 3 days at Jay Peak, after a week that brought 40 inches of snow..

There is no way on earth you could tear me off of my fish. I was with some guys on skis too, but in the tight trees in 20"+ of untracked there is no better tool.

http://www.burton.com/mens-boards-fish-snowboard/231493,default,pd.html?start=5&cgid=mens-boards

at least till this shows up anyway:

http://www.jonessnowboards.com/boards/hovercraft/

i find it interesting that after years of twin tips, there are directional boards again.
 
I think people have a misconception about skis in powder...trust me, you float PERFECTLY fine.
 
:lol: if there are guys on skis that can't hang with a boarder in 20+ inches of snow in tight trees, then they dont know how to ski properly.

I know some extremely skilled snowboarders. But there are some places out west where they basically call me a lunatic and find an alternate route.

The problem with skis in thick glades or moguls comes down to technique. You CANT just aim your skis down groomed trails and claim to be a good skier. When it comes down to it, you need to have the correct body position and control over those sticks to turn in a split second as well as absorb bumps or extend in sudden drops. Not many people who call themselves "skiers" have put forth the effort to learn the proper technique.... which is fine if you spend your time on groomed trails.... but once you get into a situation where you actually need to "control" the skis and not just "ride" on them, well, that's where the fun really begins!
 
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I think people have a misconception about skis in powder...trust me, you float PERFECTLY fine.

I completely agree! - as I found out this past weekend in the backcountry of UT...I didn't realize just how deep the pow was until I was OUT of a ski and up to my waist in snow!
 
don, having come up in snowboarding during this time, your post is absolutely perfect. The only hole i can poke in this entire post is that you didn't mention Lamar or that Palmer was riding hard boots in the pipe. 🙂

Thanks - and I could go on and on but tried to keep it short!

And how could I forget Lamar - I had those same yellow Look pants with the white knee patches back towards in college. I didn't know that Palmer rocked hard boots in the pipe - although it doesn't surprise me that guy did a bunch of nutty stuff.
 
After 3 days at Jay Peak, after a week that brought 40 inches of snow..

There is no way on earth you could tear me off of my fish. I was with some guys on skis too, but in the tight trees in 20"+ of untracked there is no better tool.

http://www.burton.com/mens-boards-fish-snowboard/231493,default,pd.html?start=5&cgid=mens-boards

at least till this shows up anyway:

http://www.jonessnowboards.com/boards/hovercraft/

40" of snow - :drooling: Jay gets a lot of snow - I just came home from a week in Stowe and peeped the Jay report a couple times - they were getting snow while we were dry. It's a haul up there but one of these days I'll have to check it out. Glad you were able to enjoy non-tracked runs in it :thumbs:

I was going to harp on the Fish that it only works great in the pow, then you showed that Stephan Maurer clip riding some serious park on it so what the hell do I know. Maybe it proves that you can't buy a bad riding board these days.

My runs consist of trees, groomers, parks, moguls with a little switch stance thrown in - many times all the stuff in one run so I try to get as good of an all-around board as possible. This year I picked up a Lib Tech Skunk Ape 161 and love it. With the Banana shape it's great in the moguls and for pressing not to mention pow of course, Magnetraction holds strong on blown out terrain and the twin shape helps me a ton when riding switch. Another bonus is I feel the Mervin guys are right on top of conscious board building with their practices: http://www.lib-tech.com/environmental/

Like the look of those Jones boards especially that split board. Riding some side country shit in Stowe this week - if I was closer to those mtns I'd certainly explore more and a split would be nice.
 
This year I picked up a Lib Tech Skunk Ape 161 and love it. With the Banana shape it's great in the moguls and for pressing not to mention pow of course, Magnetraction holds strong on blown out terrain and the twin shape helps me a ton when riding switch. Another bonus is I feel the Mervin guys are right on top of conscious board building with their practices: http://www.lib-tech.com/environmental/
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Yep, I got a Gnu last year w/ the magne traction & banana technology as well...gotta love Mervin. Always loved Gnu. I love the new technology- never go back.
 
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