This Thread Blows - C19 and beyond

Seriously! I dont know whether to chill, prep for long term isolation, or buy a gun and some razorwire.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but it will take at least 30 days to legally buy a gun in the state on NJ.

The corona virus can be spread through the air. Think about that. Go check online if you don't believe me. That means if an infected person (with or without symptoms) coughs, everyone in their vicinity can be infected.

I hate to be an alarmist (I'm usually super optimistic) but we need to take this seriously. This is the beginning for us here in the US. No - the stocks markets will not rebound. Yes - delivery trucks and manufacturing are very likely to slow or even halt in the next month. Yes - the subways and office buildings and schools and stores will close. We will all be on lock down, just like China and like Italy. The experts are universally saying we are less prepared than these nations. Once the healthcare workers start getting sick, we are really fucked.

And yes - we will rebound and recover eventually. For now please prepare for the worst. And if I'm wrong, you'll at least have enough toilet paper to last you until retirement. 😳

In all seriousness people need to keep calm. There are way too many people panicking and making irrational decisions. My wife saw a woman with 3 shopping carts full of cat food this morning. Be smart, have a reasonable amount of supplies on hand. Don't get in a fist fight in Costco 1 minute after they open trying to take toilet paper out of other people's carts. Why would you hoard TP anyway? I would really like to hear a logical explanation as to why you need extra toilet paper.
 
Panic is one reaction to information. So is being dismissive. While I certainly don’t think anyone should panic (ever) we need to listen to what the experts are saying and prepare now.

If I am reading your posts objectively, I would say they are written based on panic.

Just because people are calm does not mean they are not prepared or dismissive. Being realistic, the calm people likely represent some level of preparedness and the people panicking are the opposite.

Let's make this real simple. DOs and DONTs:

DO: avoid people for a bit
DONT: read the news headlines

Stick with those and you'll be generally ok. Also maybe avoid scary movies and zombie books for a bit.
 
This would be a good time to clean up the basement, or go through those boxes in the attic.
figure out which stuff to burn first. To cook the squirrel. Should take out the fox first, he keeps eating them and the rabbits.

Guess I wasn't thinking ahead. Had 6 squirrels living in the garage. Relocated 5 of 6. Removed 3 nests. Pretty much destroyed every cardboard box in the garage to make said nests. The 1 remaining squirrel and nest will require removing the facia board.
 
US numbers - https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

check the acceleration (new cases per day change, day-over-day)
looking at the smooth parts of the bar graph
- march 5-6, the difference was 30,
- march 11-12, the difference was 89
this is the issue. if we did nothing, next week the day-over-day change would be 225, with a couple thousand new cases per day. (most likely it will be this number anyway, because of incubation, so we look to stem it two weeks out)

the mortality rate is out of line, of course, because we are just ramping up testing - but it does say that if 41 people have died, we have under-counted the infected.

The good news, only 1% have gone critical, of active cases.
now consider 1% per day at 2,000/dy going critical. project that out another week.
this is the compelling argument to act now. (it was the argument to act two weeks ago, but ya just dismiss the math guy, cause it was only a few cases) note that this is the same math/reasoning i use in the retirement thread. PERT!

Be educated, do your part. don't panic.

tip-of-the-day
do not drink isopropyl alcohol, that is for your hands,
do not wash your hands with ethyl alcohol, that is a waste of good liquor

This would be a good time to clean up the basement, or go through those boxes in the attic.
figure out which stuff to burn first. To cook the squirrel. Should take out the fox first, he keeps eating them and the rabbits.

yeah but it all depends how long we stay in the highly accelerated new cases part of the graph. In the same site, look at the graphs for china and s. korea. They started to flatten out after 2-3 weeks
 
Panic is one reaction to information. So is being dismissive. While I certainly don’t think anyone should panic (ever) we need to listen to what the experts are saying and prepare now.
Do you not see that the method which the information is being delivered makes you the alarmist and incites panic?
BE PREPARED FOR A PANDEMIC PEOPLE! HUNKER DOWN FOR 3 WEEKS!! ADMINS, POST THIS EVERYWHERE!!!!!! EVERYTHING WILL BE SHUT DOWN!!!
Or, you can say it like a rationale human being as in:
Hey everybody, this is a pandemic so it pays to be prepared and be safe. Take precautions because this is an airborne virus that spreads rapidly. Be safe, keep your families safe.

Both stated facts yet the manner in which they are delivered makes the world of difference. You may say you're relaying information as much as the media says they are but it's not the same thing. If you can't see that, there's a problem.
 
yeah but it all depends how long we stay in the highly accelerated new cases part of the graph. In the same site, look at the graphs for china and s. korea. They started to flatten out after 2-3 weeks

Yeah, but aren't they still on lockdown? What happens when the lockdown ends and the virus still exists in the world? The problem with these quarantines and lockdowns is that they can't go on forever (well maybe they can in China). I'm not saying they aren't a good idea right now because we don't know what else to do, but it doesn't seem sustainable. This virus isn't just gonna disappear, and people are gonna have to go back to daily life at some point.
 
And they just closed my sons school for min 2 weeks....
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Im sure the hospital will let my wife WFH.
 
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