Category for Plus + bikes?

Is it really a different bike than the "non-plussed" version of the same wheel size? It seems like the differences are that they may perform better on some terrain and are more forgiving than skinnier tires on hardtails. If that's the criteria that would separate them from other bikes of the same wheel size, than you could also ask why there isn't separate sub-forums for FS, hardtail, and rigid. I mean... come on people now, smile on your brother and everybody get together try to love one another right now (1)...

(1) Cobain & Powers, "Territorial Pissings", DGC Records, 1991

Now, having sub-forums for 1x12 vs 1x11 vs 1x10 vs 2x?? -- that shit is totally legit.
 
A topic is fine for now. If for some reason there are multiple topics weekly on plus size tires on bikes, we can make a forum.
 
I just picked this up today. Have to swap out the grips, pedals, and shorten the handlebar. Can't wait to hit the trails with it.
 

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Unless you're at the pointy end of Cat1/Pro, the bike is irrelevant. Didn't Leo just win Mooch on an fat bike with 5" tires and a suspension fork?
 
Looks fun. What is it?
Oh, sorry. It's a Diamondback Catch 2. Read some great reviews and saw videos of it with the Level Link rear suspension. Also the components that come with the bike are really good. I just got it yesterday and the only adjustment I was able to make was adjusting the seat height so I can ride it around a bit. I still need to do a bunch of fine tuning (fork and rear shock air pressure for proper sag, shortening the handle bar) and personalization (equipment swaps mentioned above) before I can take it out on a real ride.
 
New diamondback? love to hear your review what made you go with it
As requested, so here's my first impressions of my Catch 2 at Mahlon Dickerson, a place I've been riding for over 15 years on trials where I know all the rocks, roots, logs, and wooden bridges with all of the bikes I've ever had, including 2 of my other current bikes (2013 Giant Trance X 29er-0 and a 2015 Motobecane Sturgis Bullet fat bike). Having a 29er and a fat bike to compare the Catch 2 against the feel of the Catch 2 is as expected, right between the 29er (with 2.25" tires) and the fat bike (with 4.5" tires). The Catch 2 comes with 2.8" tires. I made the following changes to the bike prior to the ride: Ergon grips with bar ends, shortened the handlebar by 2" (1" per side), replaced the flat pedals with Shimano SPDs, added a bike computer, removed the reflectors, adjusted the air pressures and rebound on the fork and shock, and adjusted the saddle angle. Basic stuff. After riding 14 miles' worth of long gravel trails, loose rock climbs, rock and root gardens, twisty rocky single track switchback downhill, long steady climbs, steep drop offs, and going over boulders that I've done countless times on my other bikes I have to say the Catch 2 met every one of my expectations. All along the way I kept making fine adjustments here and there which is typical of any first rides (shake down). With each adjustment the bike felt that much better. I think the bike is about 85% of perfect. I know I still have to adjust the position of the shifter a bit and perhaps lose a bit more air in the tire(s). The components worked flawlessly. The Guide brakes were awesome. They felt better than the Shimano XTs I have on my other bikes. The shifter is very crisp and precise through all 11 gears. The only issue I have with the shifter is typical of SRAM and that is you can only upshift with your thumb. Meaning you can only push the lever, not like Shimano where you can either push with your thumb or pull it like a trigger with your index finger. Both of my other bikes have Shimano XTs and I've gotten used to "pulling the trigger" to upshift so with the SRAM it will take a little getting use to. The 1x11 drive train compared to the 2x10 on my other bikes was not an issue for me. I hardly ever use the small chain ring up front anyway so I didn't feel like I'm missing anything. The gear spacing is great. Often times on climbs I thought I was in the largest cog when in fact I was one gear from that. This is good in case on the rare occasion I need a little more help it'll be there. It'll take a while for me to know what gear I'm in just by feel. The Plus size tires are wide enough to get me over stuff that would be difficult with my skinny 29er but thin enough than my fatty to have less rolling resistance. Being a full squish compared to my fatty (hardtail with Bluto) it's easier on my body and helps me get over larger rocks and logs faster. Grip around turns is great as expected. The fork and shock are awesome and work great together. The bike felt very solid for a full squish but also forgiving. The only component change in the near future would be a riser bar (30-35mm). Far future upgrade would be to go tubeless. The rims are tubeless with rim tape already installed but the Kenda Havoc Sport tires are not tubeless ready. The bike did come with tubeless valves in addition to a shock pump and front fender. The bike is no lightweight but much lighter than my fatbike. I didn't weigh it but I think I read somewhere that it's around 32 lbs. stock. So am I happy with my purchase? You betcha!!
If you're familiar with Mahlon Dickerson Reservation, below is the ride. We started at the Safin Pond parking lot off Weldon Road. We did about 14 miles total despite what the Map My Ride app says. There were many stops for adjustments, refueling, watering the plants, and waiting on other riders.
http://www.mapmyride.com/workout/14..._type_map=["fitness.bikes"]&action_ref_map=[]
 
Why I picked the Catch 2? I looked at other bikes in the same category from Cannondale (Bad Habit) and Specialized (similar bikes from other manufacturers like Scott, Rocky Mountain, etc. were just way too expensive). After some research I decided on the Diamondback Catch 2 with the Bad Habit as a very close second. What really caught my eye about the Catch was the Level Link rear suspension design and it was the great components that come standard on the Catch 2 that sealed the deal.
 
I know I still have to adjust the position of the shifter a bit and perhaps lose a bit more air in the tire(s).

Congrats. I'm loving mine too. I'd recommend playing more with the air pressure (and also going tubless - mine already is). I started out running ~ 15 psi on rocky trails and just recently dropped to a ~11 and it made a big (+) difference. Pretty sure I could go even lower - next time out will experiment some more
 
Congrats. I'm loving mine too. I'd recommend playing more with the air pressure (and also going tubless - mine already is). I started out running ~ 15 psi on rocky trails and just recently dropped to a ~11 and it made a big (+) difference. Pretty sure I could go even lower - next time out will experiment some more
I have a pair of WTB TrailBlazers coming to go tubeless.
 
I have a pair of WTB TrailBlazers coming to go tubeless.

Is that the tire that comes standard on the Cannondale Bad Habit? I've read some hate/disappointment about that tire in rocky/rooty conditions. Are you giving up on the Kendas just because they don't claim to be tubeless?

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