E-bikes are a thing

Ebikes??

  • I have never ridden one

    Votes: 98 39.0%

  • I have ridden one for over an hour on a trail and I’ll never buy one

    Votes: 10 4.0%

  • I have ridden one in a trail for over an hr and I am considering one

    Votes: 20 8.0%

  • I’ll never give up my analog bike but I’ll still get an ebike

    Votes: 37 14.7%

  • Did he just say analog bike?

    Votes: 37 14.7%

  • My knees are failing and an ebike in inevitable

    Votes: 18 7.2%

  • My next bike will certainly be an ebike.

    Votes: 21 8.4%

  • I’ll never own an ebike, even when I’m 90

    Votes: 25 10.0%

  • Ebikes cause more trail damage than analog bikes

    Votes: 9 3.6%

  • Ebikes have no more trail impact than a traditional bike.

    Votes: 67 26.7%

  • I hate anyone on an ebike

    Votes: 7 2.8%

  • Anyone on a bike is a friend of mine, ebike or not

    Votes: 95 37.8%

  • I’ve been seeing ebikes in the woods regularly

    Votes: 57 22.7%

  • I’ve never seen an ebike on the trail

    Votes: 15 6.0%

  • It's called an Acoustic bike

    Votes: 14 5.6%

  • “I may consider one after my body is all used up and broken"

    Votes: 66 26.3%

  • I already own an off-road Ebike

    Votes: 41 16.3%

  • I have no interest in an e-bike

    Votes: 14 5.6%

  • Arguing against ebikes is kerfuffle

    Votes: 16 6.4%

  • I like Matty no matter what he rides

    Votes: 22 8.8%
  • Total voters
    251
SmooveP said:
I can't envision how they're gonna successfully regulate e-bikes. Let's say they come up with a definition of what constitutes an e-bike, which would be the first step in writing a law. The lines between so called "classes" of e-bikes are already so blurry and new variants are popping up as we speak. Then there's e-skateboards, scooters, OneWheels, Segways, DIY hacks, etc. By the time they come up with legislation, there will be some new type of propulsion system that doesn't involve wheels. I feel like I saw the original version of this movie when mopeds arrived on the scene.

Disclaimer: I still haven't ridden an e-bike.
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Simplify it by regulating the speed and just allow throttles to simplify it further. Ebikes just themselves have 3 classes and that doesn't even include all the low speed vehicles, nobody cares that ebikes have 3 classes and nobody has ever paid attention.

Sort vehicles by weight and speed, everything with a motor and put in 4 classes. Anything up to 6mph is a toy and there are pretty much no rules so your baby can ride a hoverboard. Class 3 anything up to 12mph needs a helmet and you need to be 12 to ride. Class 2 anything up to 20mph and 14 and up. Class 1 no more than 80lbs and no faster than 30.

Your baby can ride a hoverboard but not go too fast.
Your 12 year old can ride their razer moto with a limited and safe speed
You can ride your mtb on trails and road with a reasonable speed limit
Commuters can ride their faster bikes with a limited weight and limited damage liability.

If it's over 80lbs it's a moped and can abide by moped rules.
 
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Ironjunk said:
Simplify it by regulating the speed and just allow throttles to simplify it further. Ebikes just themselves have 3 classes and that doesn't even include all the low speed vehicles, nobody cares that ebikes have 3 classes and nobody has ever paid attention.

Sort vehicles by weight and speed, everything with a motor and put in 4 classes. Anything up to 6mph is a toy and there are pretty much no rules so your baby can ride a hoverboard. Class 3 anything up to 12mph needs a helmet and you need to be 12 to ride. Class 2 anything up to 20mph and 14 and up. Class 1 no more than 80lbs and no faster than 30.

Your baby can ride a hoverboard but not go too fast.
Your 12 year old can ride their razer moto with a limited and safe speed
You can ride your mtb on trails and road with a reasonable speed limit
Commuters can ride their faster bikes with a limited weight and limited damage liability.

If it's over 80lbs it's a moped and can abide by moped rules.
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This kind of common sense approach has no place in modern society.😶
 
Santapez said:
Do you have any new friends that just got into riding bikes?

I could use the same logic for myself, that all my friends with e-bikes came from regular bikes but I also don't know any new riders to the sport. I'm sure bike shops are the ones who would actually know the mix of new riders who go e-bike vs regular.

When I got into biking in my 20s I was fat and out of shape. An e-bike if affordable would have likely been my choice. And that 20-something me also thought riding wet muddy trails were cool until I knew better.
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New riders aren’t buying mountain bikes of any kind outside of base model Rockhoppers or the like. An actual MTB as we’d see it is 2 or 3 bikes in and a few years of riding.
 
Steve Vai said:
I keep a titanium spork in my lunchbox and don’t ask for utensils. If I do get plastic forks I save them until it’s worth taking a trip to throw them in the ocean.
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metric spork?

btw, I've also seen them with a serrated edge........
 
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tonyride said:
We (cyclists) already did. With the exception of tire and wheel sizes on mountain bikes, every other measurement are in metrics. Road bikes are straight up metrics.
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Me, telling a customer that a bike clears 29x2.2 tires.

Customer, the website says it will only do 55C!!
 
Steve Vai said:
Me, telling a customer that a bike clears 29x2.2 tires.

Customer, the website says it will only do 55C!!
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This shows how dominant the metric system is with bicycles. You try to use the only English measurements on a bike and that confuses people. Also, that customer must be a newbie.
 
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