Fire!

I think it's just the numbers game at the moment, I can't imagine the insurance not totaling the car with a bill like that.
Look for the car in a few months on a salvage auction, and start researching your new to you car
 
Did an appraiser come out and look at that mess or photo estimate? Writing for used/salvage/recycled parts is common nowadays. Unfortunately that stuff is in your policy...somewhere. As far as valuation, most insurance companies flag around 70-80% of value not 50. If a car (probably such as this) is going to be a nightmare before and after we will talk to our ins rep and see if we can write to total it. It's also pretty common for the outside appraisers to write low estimates initially.

As @ReggieHammond said, the initial estimate is usually a starting point, we've had photo estimates for $800 bucks be really $2400.00 just looking at the car in the parking lot without taking a thing apart.
 
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Did an appraiser come out and look at that mess or photo estimate? Writing for used/salvage/recycled parts is common nowadays. Unfortunately that stuff is in your policy...somewhere. As far as valuation, most insurance companies flag around 70-80% of value not 50. If a car (probably such as this) is going to be a nightmare before and after we will talk to our ins rep and see if we can write to total it. It's also pretty common for the outside appraisers to write low estimates initially.

As @ReggieHammond said, the initial estimate is usually a starting point, we've had photo estimates for $800 bucks be really $2400.00 just looking at the car in the parking lot without taking a thing apart.
I just spoke with the Acura dealer where I want the repairs to be done... if that is the case and he also agreed with @fidodie assessment about lot of the wiring harness being damaged based on my description. He also said that its very likely that they only got an estimate for superficial damage only and once they take a more detail inspection on mechanical and electrical aspects, there is a good probability that they will consider this a total loss.

Oh... the car is at my insurance's(State Farm) facilities so I would assume the appraiser did look at it.

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The estimate has the inspection date and an appraiser's name on it
 
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Ok... need some coaching here
Insurance saying the value of the car is $17,424. I said screw you and they just bumped it up to $17,913
I have emailed them Edmunds with the same car priced up to $21,495 and requested they re-evaluate. I have also threatened to leave State Farm if $17,913 is their final offer.
What's my next move?
 
do you "have" to use your insurance company? why not the one that started the fire?
Perhaps you can go after them for the gap?

remember Patience.....
 
do you "have" to use your insurance company? why not the one that started the fire?
Perhaps you can go after them for the gap?

remember Patience.....
I don't have to... but I would have assumed my insurance would have went to bat for me considering they will get the money from the other insurance anyways.
 
I don't have to... but I would have assumed my insurance would have went to bat for me considering they will get the money from the other insurance anyways.

yeah - but can they claim $21k from them, and pay you less?
Do you have any lawyers on speed dial?
(property damage recovery attorney) Worth it if gain is greater than cost i guess...
 
There is no freakin way that is not a total!!! Plus you will never ever get the stink out of it. your insurance company should already know this.

I've had small fires, and the customers all bitched about the stink. GM bought them back.

This was not a small fire.
 
I can't image how this is not a total loss. Every state is different. Most states use a set percentage. NJ and a handful of others are different. I've totaled 2 cars. In NJ if the cost of repairs + the salvage yard value of your car > cars appraised value then it's a total loss.
 
I can't image how this is not a total loss. Every state is different. Most states use a set percentage. NJ and a handful of others are different. I've totaled 2 cars. In NJ if the cost of repairs + the salvage yard value of your car > cars appraised value then it's a total loss.
Cn8 already stated it was total loss. He was disputing the cash payout for the car.
 
Can you explain how this happened?
The police report states that the guy from another garage was working on his car. He was dremeling something and a spark flew into gasoline that ignited the fire.

More painful pic is....
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