Frozen water main - suggestions?

Sister in law helping my brother chase the pipe, as it were.
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We weren't able to find the pipe at the halfway, despite making a fine Siege of London-style crater in the garden.
The Hotshot hasn't been plugged in.
There's ghost-limb digging going on now, but we're calling it and allowing folks who know what they're doing to take over.
The thought of pursuing this tomorrow, with the mud added to the mix, is too much...
Is that the MTBNJ Team EZ up?
 
just wow. Now I know why people pay other people $750 to jump start their water line.
I feel like a character in a book who gets in a car accident and dies in the arms of the actual protagonist, which then precipitates the third act. His last thought: "Wait, I'M not the hero?"
Funny how all the internet research doesn't cover the failures. I hope I've done my part to balance the scales.
There MAY be a drip starting. Will know better in the morning. Gave up staring at the tap and retired to the local drinking hole to fill my drinking hole.IMG_0037.JPG
 
There MAY be a drip starting
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It's going to be 60 degrees outside soon, so the problem is about to solve itself. Meaning that this whole thread and everything Sean went through is irrelevant. Although it was great entertainment for all of us, which is all that matters.

I'd have faith in the professionals he's bringing in more than the weather. Unfortunately that block of frozen dirt around that pipe will insulated it and keep it cold. It took a while to freeze to that level, would take longer than a day and a half to thaw to that level. Back to really cold Saturday night.
 
I still don't understand why the hot shot wasn't used.
usually people who don't understand electricity are less fearful of it. maybe one of the participants has about my knowledge of it. Enough to know how dangerous it is, but not enough to know exactly why it doesn't kill people constantly.
 
I still don't understand why the hot shot wasn't used.
usually people who don't understand electricity are less fearful of it. maybe one of the participants has about my knowledge of it. Enough to know how dangerous it is, but not enough to know exactly why it doesn't kill people constantly.

potential danger.......

this works on so many levels.
 
but not enough to know exactly why it doesn't kill people constantly.
Sit rep:
We've got a hotshot 320 with 50' cables. I'm going to remove 'em from the 320 and clamp them to the 25' cables on the slightly more powerful hotshot 400, giving us 75' on a side. This is long enuf to reach to both the curb and the main at the basement.
The only thing now is, it's raining. SO the plan is to wait til there's a break in the the rain, wrap the connections in the line with plastic to keep 'em dry and fire this fucker up.
There's been zero progress in the melt so far:
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...and the hole next to the house is looking seriously ridiculous:
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Tonight we get sleet and freezing rain. Would like to sort this out prior, but am not @gtluke, and thus am deathly afeared of that which may not kill me but is seriously scary to the uninformed.
 
electricity doesn't work that way - hook it to the pipes and turn it on. in that order.
you can even touch the pipe while they are connected. just don't get directly in-between the connections. (hold clamp in one hand and pipe in other.)
do it - you want me to come up?

you have a 20 amp outlet? like a garage door opener, or kitchen countertop? and heavy extension?
 
electricity doesn't work that way
Which way now? If you're in the neighborhood, c'mon by. 40 Entrance Way in Denville, just off Diamond Spring, opposite the Rock Ridge Lake clubhouse parking lot.
I'm only worried about the connections between the 25' and 50' runs being wet and laying there on the ground.
And yep, we've got 20 amp circuits in kinda the right place.
 
Which way now? If you're in the neighborhood, c'mon by. 40 Entrance Way in Denville, just off Diamond Spring, opposite the Rock Ridge Lake clubhouse parking lot.
I'm only worried about the connections between the 25' and 50' runs being wet and laying there on the ground.
And yep, we've got 20 amp circuits in kinda the right place.

got a rubber door mat around? wet is fine.

ever get an electric shock while in a swimming pool? happens! not that you need to worry about that.

i'll see ya in an hour or so. think i'll see if @notcho is going drinking after work.
 
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