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Question for the the powers that be...would it be correct to say that Mtbnj.com is the unofficial forum of JORBA? If that is the case, how about making it official? I’ve been on multiple forums with free access where paying a premium would give you access to specific features. Very ‘90s or ‘00s at best but still...JORBA.org doesn’t have a forum, which I think would generate more attention to it, at the same time it probably wouldn’t be very good for Mtbnj.com to miss some of the traffic in favor of JORBA.org...just a thought... @Norm @Bleeder ?
 
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If you are reading this thread here is what I need you to do. This assumes that you are/were a member or even if you're thinking about it.

  1. Go here: https://jorba.org/civicrm/mailing/subscribe/?reset=1
  2. Sign up for the parks you want to keep up-to-date on
    • Actually just sign up for CR so you're on our mailing list
  3. Check your email and confirm the subscription
  4. Report back how much better you feel about life after having done so
This is a minor thing but we need to correlate more members with the parks they want to know about.
 
If you are reading this thread here is what I need you to do. This assumes that you are/were a member or even if you're thinking about it.

  1. Go here: https://jorba.org/civicrm/mailing/subscribe/?reset=1
  2. Sign up for the parks you want to keep up-to-date on
    • Actually just sign up for CR so you're on our mailing list
  3. Check your email and confirm the subscription
  4. Report back how much better you feel about life after having done so
This is a minor thing but we need to correlate more members with the parks they want to know about.
Nice, done!

Did not expect a separate. confirmation for all the parks I selected.

You have made it really easy to help me say I have done something at all of these parks! Thanks!
 
Sometimes I ponder every possibility I can think of when reading other's words/opinion stuff, but I try to end up not assuming any of them are true. I ask (and post online in general) when it is something I care about, and/or when I have time to actually read the interwebs. Thanks MDW'21 for that. =)

I hear you re: asking ourselves if we've done enough at our volunteer gigs. I've had those thoughts at times, but not recently. Working with so many JORBA volunteers over the years, and now with NICA in a larger capacity, I've come to greatly respect the time which people give, no matter how, how often or where they do so. Your 'blood from stone' analogy is quite accurate, and rightfully so. Self > Family > Work. I feel blessed to be able to give everything I have to my work while keeping those priorities in perspective, but often volunteerism suffers, as it isn't on the list.

There are tons of studies out there regarding success of a non-profit, and compensated staff is always among the greatest impacts. Example: New Jersey has somewhere over 8.8 million people. Vermont has over 600k, or around 7% of NJ's population. JORBA has ~600 members, VMBA has ~7500 members. So JORBA has 8% of VMBA's members, while VT has 7% of NJ's population. How can it be so far off? I understand that this is not exactly an apples to apples comparison regarding focus on outdoor experience/education and green space availability, among other things, but the comparison is pretty striking.

No matter how you compare the two states though, we can be certain that we have some huge factor more mountain bikers living and riding here than VT does. One can argue tourism, seasonal visits, etc., help to increase VMBA's numbers, but over 11 times the amount?

So what do I feel is the most important factor? VMBA hired a full time director in 2012, a time when they had around 1000 members. He was gifted and perfect for the job, and had a great support staff of like-minded volunteers. They've since doubled their chapters and innovated a ton, and that director has moved on. The org is in a great place.

JORBA has been successful too, please don't misunderstand my intent. JORBA has successfully *sustained* operations, despite some really significant challenges. We are a 25+ year old organization, and have had paid membership on a state-wide level since 2007. We have retained total member #s pretty well, and have supported existing chapters with administrative tools and tools to dig/build/maintain with quite well. Our successes with land managers far outnumber our failures, and we have arguably some of the best riding in the country. We are often the voice of our community to land managers, but when it comes to issues which require money (more members) or political voice (more members), we will suffer until we change our strategy.
Somebody posted the nj vs VT numbers on a Facebook group I'm on and I thought that was a good approach, playing into the NJ F every other state mentality, lol. I'm an Admin the Garden State Mountain Biking page and can get any message message guys want on there as an announcement. Feel free to message me anything you want posted up.

I also like the bike shop idea. Post up a flier doc and I'll print it out and bring it to my LBSes. Tell me how much a 100ct run of stickers are and I'll venmo you the money and my address and bring them too. Hard sell where I am (monmouth county), but not like most people actually know JORBA doesn't do work here. Plus, the advocacy you all do in general does/will have an affect here.
 
'm an Admin the Garden State Mountain Biking page and can get any message message guys want on there as an announcement. Feel free to message me anything you want posted up.

I wondered who these people were that owned that page. This is good to know.

We are going to start a big push to get more members and we can use your help on that.
 
Somebody posted the nj vs VT numbers on a Facebook group I'm on and I thought that was a good approach, playing into the NJ F every other state mentality, lol. I'm an Admin the Garden State Mountain Biking page and can get any message message guys want on there as an announcement. Feel free to message me anything you want posted up.

I also like the bike shop idea. Post up a flier doc and I'll print it out and bring it to my LBSes. Tell me how much a 100ct run of stickers are and I'll venmo you the money and my address and bring them too. Hard sell where I am (monmouth county), but not like most people actually know JORBA doesn't do work here. Plus, the advocacy you all do in general does/will have an affect here.
Kinda of ironic when I requested to join one of the conditions was not asking for donations. Lol
 
I wondered who these people were that owned that page. This is good to know.

We are going to start a big push to get more members and we can use your help on that.
Don't at all own it, lol. I posted helpful stuff a couple times and they made me a mod, then an admin. I did meet and know the guy who runs YDKSAMTB (You don't know shit about mtb) group and can get him to post up too.
 
Don't at all own it, lol. I posted helpful stuff a couple times and they made me a mod, then an admin. I did meet and know the guy who runs YDKSAMTB (You don't know shit about mtb) group and can get him to post up too.

I just added myself to that YDKSAMTB group. Can you get me approved over there as a start?
 
If you are reading this thread here is what I need you to do. This assumes that you are/were a member or even if you're thinking about it.

  1. Go here: https://jorba.org/civicrm/mailing/subscribe/?reset=1
  2. Sign up for the parks you want to keep up-to-date on
    • Actually just sign up for CR so you're on our mailing list
  3. Check your email and confirm the subscription
  4. Report back how much better you feel about life after having done so
This is a minor thing but we need to correlate more members with the parks they want to know about.
Received confirmation only for the first selection. Is that normal?

Not sure what this accomplished though. Nothing to do with the website transition I suppose?

I feel exactly like before doing it. Is it bad?

Ah, Sterling is missing from the list. Is it because NY?
 
Received confirmation only for the first selection. Is that normal?

Not sure what this accomplished though. Nothing to do with the website transition I suppose?

I feel exactly like before doing it. Is it bad?

Ah, Sterling is missing from the list. Is it because NY?
your email may have clustered it. Mine separated the please confirm but clustered the confirmation.
 
I just added myself to that YDKSAMTB group. Can you get me approved over there as a start?
Sent him a message. His name is Dennis Dee. Super nice guy.

your email may have clustered it. Mine separated the please confirm but clustered the confirmation.
Trying to avoid spam and all that, I guess. We have a rule on GSMB that you have to request approval from an admin to promote any type of business.
 
I also like the bike shop idea. Post up a flier doc and I'll print it out and bring it to my LBSes. Tell me how much a 100ct run of stickers are and I'll venmo you the money and my address and bring them too. Hard sell where I am (monmouth county), but not like most people actually know JORBA doesn't do work here. Plus, the advocacy you all do in general does/will have an affect here.

At the risk of stirring the pot, this really may not be a great course of action right now. Shops are so overworked/understaffed, it's not funny. Better to wait (on that particular front, anyway) until things calm down a little.

Or go after there have been a couple of rainy days in a row...and it's still raining.
 
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