I can't really speak to thati was also eyeing up the 5010 for my list...
in terms of nimbleness, any thoughts or experience as to how the 27.5+ 5010 compares to the tallboy?
I can't really speak to thati was also eyeing up the 5010 for my list...
in terms of nimbleness, any thoughts or experience as to how the 27.5+ 5010 compares to the tallboy?
That moots clusterF still stinging, eh...
ignoring poor fit set-ups:
I think FS in general is good for backs. When riding HT, my back would be hurting on a two hour ride. With FS, not even as issue.
5010 is the most nimble bike I have ever ridden, line changes at will..
Couldn't agree more with this re: backs.
Backs = Too broad of a topic to generalize.
I have not sat (in a chair) at work since I strained my back over five years ago. I stand all day and do regular core-building exercises. My riding is only a rigid SS or rigid fat bike, and depending on how complex my schedule is, I'll go from 5-6 days/week to 2. No back issues.
You are correct on this. Had clearcoat and developed rust at the welds. Sent it back and they painted it, no problem. Great bike that I ended up selling because I started riding mostly rigid and the geometry on this frame was for climbing and a 120 fork. Tried it rigid but never felt right. Clearcoat was cool looking doe. Good memory you have there Lab RatSad to see they don't have the steel clear coat option. I know they had it for Gen1 but a number of batches had the under coat rust which looked interesting but recalled a number of batches. Think @Mitch had one?
Good memory for someone your age 🙂You are correct on this. Had clearcoat and developed rust at the welds. Sent it back and they painted it, no problem. Great bike that I ended up selling because I started riding mostly rigid and the geometry on this frame was for climbing and a 120 fork. Tried it rigid but never felt right. Clearcoat was cool looking doe. Good memory you have there Lab Rat
The Blur or like geo is the ticket for me if FS was the path I were to take on. Truthfully though, I see fulls suspension as a headache. Single speed is so much less of a worry to maintain.
I never was more in tuned with my riding like I was when I was riding single speed. The Moots was a great bike but much more than I actually needed.
That moots was great at the time, but the modern stuff is light years ahead of that. You might be well served to log some hrs on the modern designs.
The hardtail isn’t dead, but they aren’t on the radar for most people unless it’s a price consideration at this point.
Come grab my 429 for a day and then tell me how much you love hardtails.
Backs = Too broad of a topic to generalize.
I have not sat (in a chair) at work since I strained my back over five years ago. I stand all day and do regular core-building exercises. My riding is only a rigid SS or rigid fat bike, and depending on how complex my schedule is, I'll go from 5-6 days/week to 2. No back issues.
Hardtail for me and single speed. I’m going to 44 in a few days I can’t think of a better way to keep me sharp and strong.
Twice in the last 5 years I’ve sold FS bikes to go back to a hardtail. I guess I like the predictability and the way they climb. Also I think they work well for NJ trails, the southern trails don’t necessarily need much suspension, and I feel like I can maneuver better on the northern rocks.
That being said I’m looking at a megatower or Hightower for next year, for the situations when the trails are chunky and go down fast.
i was also eyeing up the 5010 for my list...
in terms of nimbleness, any thoughts or experience as to how the 27.5+ 5010 compares to the tallboy?
So where does the 5010 fit in? Mine is coming in around 30lbs. While I understand a 130 bike is the 100-120 of yesteryear, are we at the point of 150?So I have ridden both...5010 at 6mr, bronson at KT back to back with a TB3....The bronson and the 5010 had a very similar feeling to me...the bronson just being a little bigger/heavier....At kingdom with perfect dirt and perfect burmed turns...The Bronson is unbelievable how fast it can change direction...Prior to this, I had never ridden a 27.5 bike on terrain like KT and I had never really been able to pump my way thru turns...This is not something my trigger does very well. I was amazed how well I could lean the bronson over, loft the front wheel and how well it jumped. This bronson was the lower end tank version with 2.6 tires on it and weighed ~36lbs.... The TB3 was great, but different....more all mountain version of an XC bike, pedaled great, went down hill great...didnt turn like the bronson, slowing turning, but more stable....felt like a more slack version of my scalpel that was more burly. Im bummed im going to have to pick between all of these bikes bc I would buy Bronson and a hightower in a minute.
Bronson....pump thru one banked turn, hit a jump...OMG THAT IS AMAZING...MUST HAVE THIS
Hightower...hit a rocky trail at high speed, or climb the warm puppy trail...THIS IS AMAZING...MUST HAVE!
I need to ride a bronson in rocks now, if its as good as the hightower in rocky technical stuff, id probably lean towards that.
Good question...I mean I kinda pass over the 5010/tall boy/429 trail for me bc i have my scalpel and im not looking for a "good at everything" kinda of bike...I want something better suited for downhills...So ill live with the extra bulk of a 140/150 bike.So where does the 5010 fit in? Mine is coming in around 30lbs. While I understand a 130 bike is the 100-120 of yesteryear, are we at the point of 150?
Whether you go hardtail or FS, the best way to keep sharp and strong is to ride...whatever you have, and do so often and occasionally go at it aggressively.
Despite this article being 4 yrs old, it's still relative to today's bikes. The end of the article nails it basically saying, don't mindfuck yourself choosing the perfect do all bike, the goal is to have fun.
Skill level can make any bike work and lack of skill will not make magic happen regardless of how much you spent on the bike?.
https://www.singletracks.com/blog/beginners/how-to-decide-how-much-suspension-you-need/
So where does the 5010 fit in? Mine is coming in around 30lbs. While I understand a 130 bike is the 100-120 of yesteryear, are we at the point of 150?
I am by no means a weight weenie but I can almost guarantee that that outdated by doesn’t write anything like the current bikesMy "outdated" bike is 160/160 and weighs exactly 30lbs (weighed at the shop) without any fancy components.
My "outdated" bike is 160/160 and weighs exactly 30lbs (weighed at the shop) without any fancy components.