The what new bike are you considering thread

ignoring poor fit set-ups:

I think FS in general is good for backs. When riding HT, my back would be hurting on a two hour ride. With FS, not even as issue.


5010 is the most nimble bike I have ever ridden, line changes at will..

Couldn't agree more with this re: backs.

I think it also depends on how much you ride. If only going out 1-2 days a week, a HT could be fine. I ride 6 days a week and before going FS my back would always have lingering soreness.

As a bonus, FS bikes have been proven to be faster too...
 
Couldn't agree more with this re: backs.

Backs = Too broad of a topic to generalize.

I have not sat (in a chair) at work since I strained my back over five years ago. I stand all day and do regular core-building exercises. My riding is only a rigid SS or rigid fat bike, and depending on how complex my schedule is, I'll go from 5-6 days/week to 2. No back issues.
 
Backs = Too broad of a topic to generalize.

I have not sat (in a chair) at work since I strained my back over five years ago. I stand all day and do regular core-building exercises. My riding is only a rigid SS or rigid fat bike, and depending on how complex my schedule is, I'll go from 5-6 days/week to 2. No back issues.

Great approach. ??

Deadlifts and glute training are great for the back as well
 
Sad to see they don't have the steel clear coat option. I know they had it for Gen1 but a number of batches had the under coat rust which looked interesting but recalled a number of batches. Think @Mitch had one?
You are correct on this. Had clearcoat and developed rust at the welds. Sent it back and they painted it, no problem. Great bike that I ended up selling because I started riding mostly rigid and the geometry on this frame was for climbing and a 120 fork. Tried it rigid but never felt right. Clearcoat was cool looking doe. Good memory you have there Lab Rat
 
You are correct on this. Had clearcoat and developed rust at the welds. Sent it back and they painted it, no problem. Great bike that I ended up selling because I started riding mostly rigid and the geometry on this frame was for climbing and a 120 fork. Tried it rigid but never felt right. Clearcoat was cool looking doe. Good memory you have there Lab Rat
Good memory for someone your age 🙂
 
The Blur or like geo is the ticket for me if FS was the path I were to take on. Truthfully though, I see fulls suspension as a headache. Single speed is so much less of a worry to maintain.

I never was more in tuned with my riding like I was when I was riding single speed. The Moots was a great bike but much more than I actually needed.

That moots was great at the time, but the modern stuff is light years ahead of that. You might be well served to log some hrs on the modern designs.

The hardtail isn’t dead, but they aren’t on the radar for most people unless it’s a price consideration at this point.

Come grab my 429 for a day and then tell me how much you love hardtails.
 
That moots was great at the time, but the modern stuff is light years ahead of that. You might be well served to log some hrs on the modern designs.

The hardtail isn’t dead, but they aren’t on the radar for most people unless it’s a price consideration at this point.

Come grab my 429 for a day and then tell me how much you love hardtails.


I’ve been priced out of fs and really don’t want to change linkage or any of that nonsense right now.


Hardtail for me and single speed. I’m going to 44 in a few days I can’t think of a better way to keep me sharp and strong.
 
Backs = Too broad of a topic to generalize.

I have not sat (in a chair) at work since I strained my back over five years ago. I stand all day and do regular core-building exercises. My riding is only a rigid SS or rigid fat bike, and depending on how complex my schedule is, I'll go from 5-6 days/week to 2. No back issues.

Good for you but the basic premise holds true - a FS will be much less stressful on your back than a HT or FR
 
Hardtail for me and single speed. I’m going to 44 in a few days I can’t think of a better way to keep me sharp and strong.

Whether you go hardtail or FS, the best way to keep sharp and strong is to ride...whatever you have, and do so often and occasionally go at it aggressively.

Despite this article being 4 yrs old, it's still relative to today's bikes. The end of the article nails it basically saying, don't mindfuck yourself choosing the perfect do all bike, the goal is to have fun.
Skill level can make any bike work and lack of skill will not make magic happen regardless of how much you spent on the bike?.

https://www.singletracks.com/blog/beginners/how-to-decide-how-much-suspension-you-need/
 
Twice in the last 5 years I’ve sold FS bikes to go back to a hardtail. I guess I like the predictability and the way they climb. Also I think they work well for NJ trails, the southern trails don’t necessarily need much suspension, and I feel like I can maneuver better on the northern rocks.

That being said I’m looking at a megatower or Hightower for next year, for the situations when the trails are chunky and go down fast.
 
Twice in the last 5 years I’ve sold FS bikes to go back to a hardtail. I guess I like the predictability and the way they climb. Also I think they work well for NJ trails, the southern trails don’t necessarily need much suspension, and I feel like I can maneuver better on the northern rocks.

That being said I’m looking at a megatower or Hightower for next year, for the situations when the trails are chunky and go down fast.

100%. I love the hardtail for certain places, don't want to use it for others. I wouldn't give it up.
 
i was also eyeing up the 5010 for my list...

in terms of nimbleness, any thoughts or experience as to how the 27.5+ 5010 compares to the tallboy?

So I have ridden both...5010 at 6mr, bronson at KT back to back with a TB3....The bronson and the 5010 had a very similar feeling to me...the bronson just being a little bigger/heavier....At kingdom with perfect dirt and perfect burmed turns...The Bronson is unbelievable how fast it can change direction...Prior to this, I had never ridden a 27.5 bike on terrain like KT and I had never really been able to pump my way thru turns...This is not something my trigger does very well. I was amazed how well I could lean the bronson over, loft the front wheel and how well it jumped. This bronson was the lower end tank version with 2.6 tires on it and weighed ~36lbs.... The TB3 was great, but different....more all mountain version of an XC bike, pedaled great, went down hill great...didnt turn like the bronson, slowing turning, but more stable....felt like a more slack version of my scalpel that was more burly. Im bummed im going to have to pick between all of these bikes bc I would buy Bronson and a hightower in a minute.

Bronson....pump thru one banked turn, hit a jump...OMG THAT IS AMAZING...MUST HAVE THIS

Hightower...hit a rocky trail at high speed, or climb the warm puppy trail...THIS IS AMAZING...MUST HAVE!

I need to ride a bronson in rocks now, if its as good as the hightower in rocky technical stuff, id probably lean towards that.
 
So I have ridden both...5010 at 6mr, bronson at KT back to back with a TB3....The bronson and the 5010 had a very similar feeling to me...the bronson just being a little bigger/heavier....At kingdom with perfect dirt and perfect burmed turns...The Bronson is unbelievable how fast it can change direction...Prior to this, I had never ridden a 27.5 bike on terrain like KT and I had never really been able to pump my way thru turns...This is not something my trigger does very well. I was amazed how well I could lean the bronson over, loft the front wheel and how well it jumped. This bronson was the lower end tank version with 2.6 tires on it and weighed ~36lbs.... The TB3 was great, but different....more all mountain version of an XC bike, pedaled great, went down hill great...didnt turn like the bronson, slowing turning, but more stable....felt like a more slack version of my scalpel that was more burly. Im bummed im going to have to pick between all of these bikes bc I would buy Bronson and a hightower in a minute.

Bronson....pump thru one banked turn, hit a jump...OMG THAT IS AMAZING...MUST HAVE THIS

Hightower...hit a rocky trail at high speed, or climb the warm puppy trail...THIS IS AMAZING...MUST HAVE!

I need to ride a bronson in rocks now, if its as good as the hightower in rocky technical stuff, id probably lean towards that.
So where does the 5010 fit in? Mine is coming in around 30lbs. While I understand a 130 bike is the 100-120 of yesteryear, are we at the point of 150?
 
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So where does the 5010 fit in? Mine is coming in around 30lbs. While I understand a 130 bike is the 100-120 of yesteryear, are we at the point of 150?
Good question...I mean I kinda pass over the 5010/tall boy/429 trail for me bc i have my scalpel and im not looking for a "good at everything" kinda of bike...I want something better suited for downhills...So ill live with the extra bulk of a 140/150 bike.
 
Whether you go hardtail or FS, the best way to keep sharp and strong is to ride...whatever you have, and do so often and occasionally go at it aggressively.

Despite this article being 4 yrs old, it's still relative to today's bikes. The end of the article nails it basically saying, don't mindfuck yourself choosing the perfect do all bike, the goal is to have fun.
Skill level can make any bike work and lack of skill will not make magic happen regardless of how much you spent on the bike?.

https://www.singletracks.com/blog/beginners/how-to-decide-how-much-suspension-you-need/

Yes yes and yes. Thank you for reinforcing my point. Know thy self.

I don’t need to spend 4K on a bike to express my fitness or skills on the trail. Simplicity is the name of the game for me right now. I'm in the stage where my kids are highly active in team sports- think set and forget. And yes, imo, singlespeed made me better on the bike.
 
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