hell, Wegmans in Princeton gets so ravaged that are stocking the shelves all the time
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So she has no concerns on if the hospital system she works for get inundated? Did you read the article Dave posted?
The whole reason for closing schools is just to slow the spread of the virus. It's not to protect the kids. It's to keep the hospitals from being overwhelmed all at once with patients like in Italy.
No. We had this conversation last night...she has been at home sick all week with the Flu and thus has not gone to work....But she was texting with her coworkers and i was asking her if things are hysterical there. She said...Its the ER...ITS ALWAYS HYSTERICAL ALL DAY EVERY DAY. SARS, swine flu, bird flu, etc, etc....Its just how the ER always it, a nut house. (myself personally, i would last 12 seconds working there) But she made the point to me that people inundate the ER and hospital 365 days a year with things the should be going to the doctors office with. She thinks this will keep the patients with the hang nails...or less serious issues away from the ER. Which is what you should be doing...you know how many times my son and i have visited mommy at work in his life? 0.0. Stay the hell away from the hospital unless you need to go there.
They way she looks at it....its inundated 100% of the time....Like in 15 years, the amount of times she has said to me...."work is slow tonight" I can count on 1 hand
serviceguy
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Hopefully you're right.
The problem though is that unlike the regular ER average day, they maybe inundated with patients having all the same issue, which requires the same equipment at the same time. This appear to be the issue in Italy right now, where the ER has to make a decision to help one patient instead of another based on criteria such as age and other factors that wouldn't normally be taken into consideration (i.e. if the patient has family or not etc.).
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yes - it is inundated with the background hum of everyday life problems. people with no insurance go to the ER for everything,
cause they can't turn people away.
so things are getting cancelled, but people are still moving around. it is just shifting the curve out a bit.
we are still weeks away from a "peak new per day" so 8-16x (?) of what we have now (and we don't know what we have now)
so that is a statistic game? Then get out the queuing theory, and figure out average service time (since the ER probably turns most over each night and sends them home now) - sure, the ER may turn them over to a hospital bed, and not call it ER anymore, but then ICU, and the rest gets flooded, and they pull the ER nurses. So i think we are dealing with a bit of semantics in separating the healthcare system from the ER.
I hope she can keep the optimism and energy up. special people work in that space.
You understand how exponential numbers work, right?
Well, there is a difference between inundated everyday and the beds being filled and you are still being inundated. Maybe it isn't emergency's concern but the hospital as a whole?
The Kalmyk
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We don’t have enough ventilators and I.C.U. beds if there’s a significant surge of new cases. As with Italy, the health system could become overwhelmed.
By Aaron E. Carroll
March 12, 2020 NY Times
...The ability of the American health care system to absorb a shock — what experts call surge capacity — is much weaker than many believe...
A crucial thing to understand about the coronavirus threat — and it’s playing out grimly in Italy — is the difference between the total number of people who might get sick and the number who might get sick at the same time. Our country has only 2.8 hospital beds per 1,000 people. That’s fewer than in Italy (3.2), China (4.3) and South Korea (12.3), all of which have had struggles. More important, there are only so many intensive care beds and ventilators.
It’s estimated that we have about 45,000 intensive care unit beds in the United States. In a moderate outbreak, about 200,000 Americans would need one...
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Here’s the Biggest Thing to Worry About With Coronavirus
We don’t have enough ventilators and I.C.U. beds if there’s a significant surge of new cases. As with Italy, the health system could become overwhelmed.
www.nytimes.com
By Aaron E. Carroll
March 12, 2020 NY Times
...The ability of the American health care system to absorb a shock — what experts call surge capacity — is much weaker than many believe...
A crucial thing to understand about the coronavirus threat — and it’s playing out grimly in Italy — is the difference between the total number of people who might get sick and the number who might get sick at the same time. Our country has only 2.8 hospital beds per 1,000 people. That’s fewer than in Italy (3.2), China (4.3) and South Korea (12.3), all of which have had struggles. More important, there are only so many intensive care beds and ventilators.
It’s estimated that we have about 45,000 intensive care unit beds in the United States. In a moderate outbreak, about 200,000 Americans would need one...
———————-
Here’s the Biggest Thing to Worry About With Coronavirus
We don’t have enough ventilators and I.C.U. beds if there’s a significant surge of new cases. As with Italy, the health system could become overwhelmed.
The Kalmyk
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That is controllable with good feel propaganda. It's a a real weapon whether you want to believe it or not.
Sure. Maybe we should institute mind-control while we're at it.
Big Dumb Animal
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Speaking of the flu and Covid-19, has anyone checked on @jimvreeland? His last post was about having the flu, then I hear they have a man in Summit Overlook quarantined. We haven't seen a basement workout selfie in a few days. If there's an outbreak at Tito's we'll know who patient zero is.
The Kalmyk
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We don’t have enough ventilators and I.C.U. beds if there’s a significant surge of new cases. As with Italy, the health system could become overwhelmed.
By Aaron E. Carroll
March 12, 2020 NY Times
...The ability of the American health care system to absorb a shock — what experts call surge capacity — is much weaker than many believe...
A crucial thing to understand about the coronavirus threat — and it’s playing out grimly in Italy — is the difference between the total number of people who might get sick and the number who might get sick at the same time. Our country has only 2.8 hospital beds per 1,000 people. That’s fewer than in Italy (3.2), China (4.3) and South Korea (12.3), all of which have had struggles. More important, there are only so many intensive care beds and ventilators.
It’s estimated that we have about 45,000 intensive care unit beds in the United States. In a moderate outbreak, about 200,000 Americans would need one...
———————-
Here’s the Biggest Thing to Worry About With Coronavirus
We don’t have enough ventilators and I.C.U. beds if there’s a significant surge of new cases. As with Italy, the health system could become overwhelmed.
www.nytimes.com
Where is Aaron Carroll reporting from? NY?
The Kalmyk
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I don't believe in free will anyway so have at it
iman29
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just saw strava post he was social distancing and riding outdoors.
Gunga galunga… gunga, gunga-lagunga
iman29
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yep saw that too. still i have the same problem that my balance keeps getting lower. I wonder if my account has a virus and they can fix it.