This Thread Blows - C19 and beyond

serviceguy said:
Hopefully you're right.

The problem though is that unlike the regular ER average day, they maybe inundated with patients having all the same issue, which requires the same equipment at the same time. This appear to be the issue in Italy right now, where the ER has to make a decision to help one patient instead of another based on criteria such as age and other factors that wouldn't normally taken into consideration (i.e. if the patient has family or not etc.).
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Honestly to me...if I was to break my leg in the next month, the thought of being sent to the ER would feel "less warm and comfy".....So I feel like if I was one of those patients, id be more worried.

MadisonDan said:
You understand how exponential numbers work, right?
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yes, but hospitals do have plans for mass casualty events....especially a Level 1 trauma center like morristown....Like for example when the school bus flipped over on Rt 80 a couple of years ago and like 20 ambulances showed up at once.

HOWEVER.....As @Patrick and @stb222 correctly pointed out...the ER just makes sure your not going to die, then sends you elsewhere...either home, or to another floor......Can the general floors of the hospital fill up?...1000% and it already happens all the time. My wife tells me when it does, the patients stay in the ER until they can be moved elsewhere.
So I asked her, well what happens when the ER fills up?
her: then people have to wait
me: well what if they are dying
her: they dont have to wait
her: same thing everyday! The line gets longer...somedays I have 100 people in the waiting room...you should see what friday night in the fall looks like with every HS playing football games.


I mean to me...does this sound comforting? well not really. The question im trying to ask her is skewed bc of the fact that the hospital is already always busy.... I mean I guess im trying to ask someone who plows snow....well what if it snows 16" instead of 8? I still have to drive the fucking truck.....To my wife, its just her work life...500 patients can show up, she can do what she can do and somehow they manage. I mean in general is she concerned about how the hospital typically operates? YES! she has plenty of complaints and vents them to me all the time.....understaffed, etc...I could go on and on. Her biggest concern is that the people who dont need to be there will make it harder for the people who do. However, she has no fears and nothing bothers her about the thought of going to work......
 
Norm said:
Thankfully TD Bank just let me know that even with the Coronavirus out there, I can still check my balance online.

So I got that going for me. Which is nice.
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Lucky you, when I look at mine there’s a surge in toilet paper usage in our household.
 
UtahJoe said:
Honestly to me...if I was to break my leg in the next month, the thought of being sent to the ER would feel "less warm and comfy".....So I feel like if I was one of those patients, id be more worried.


yes, but hospitals do have plans for mass casualty events....especially a Level 1 trauma center like morristown....Like for example when the school bus flipped over on Rt 80 a couple of years ago and like 20 ambulances showed up at once.

HOWEVER.....As @Patrick and @stb222 correctly pointed out...the ER just makes sure your not going to die, then sends you elsewhere...either home, or to another floor......Can the general floors of the hospital fill up?...1000% and it already happens all the time. My wife tells me when it does, the patients stay in the ER until they can be moved elsewhere.
So I asked her, well what happens when the ER fills up?
her: then people have to wait
me: well what if they are dying
her: they dont have to wait
her: same thing everyday! The line gets longer...somedays I have 100 people in the waiting room...you should see what friday night in the fall looks like with every HS playing football games.


I mean to me...does this sound comforting? well not really. The question im trying to ask her is skewed bc of the fact that the hospital is already always busy.... I mean I guess im trying to ask someone who plows snow....well what if it snows 16" instead of 8? I still have to drive the fucking truck.....To my wife, its just her work life...500 patients can show up, she can do what she can do and somehow they manage. I mean in general is she concerned about how the hospital typically operates? YES! she has plenty of complaints and vents them to me all the time.....understaffed, etc...I could go on and on. Her biggest concern is that the people who dont need to be there will make it harder for the people who do. However, she has no fears and nothing bothers her about the thought of going to work......
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"...However, she has no fears and nothing bothers her about the thought of going to work......"

In case anyone didnt say it or tell her, THANK YOU for doing what most people would not especially working in an ER.
 
Big Dumb Animal said:
Speaking of the flu and Covid-19, has anyone checked on @jimvreeland? His last post was about having the flu, then I hear they have a man in Summit Overlook quarantined. We haven't seen a basement workout selfie in a few days. If there's an outbreak at Tito's we'll know who patient zero is.
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I've just been passing it around town. They closed the schools so it's been working. My commute home the other night was pretty quiet, but not quiet enough, I we work hard enough I think we can get rid of 50% of the population pretty easily. Who's in? I can infect you and then it's up to you to pass it around.
 
UtahJoe said:
Honestly to me...if I was to break my leg in the next month, the thought of being sent to the ER would feel "less warm and comfy".....So I feel like if I was one of those patients, id be more worried.


yes, but hospitals do have plans for mass casualty events....especially a Level 1 trauma center like morristown....Like for example when the school bus flipped over on Rt 80 a couple of years ago and like 20 ambulances showed up at once.

HOWEVER.....As @Patrick and @stb222 correctly pointed out...the ER just makes sure your not going to die, then sends you elsewhere...either home, or to another floor......Can the general floors of the hospital fill up?...1000% and it already happens all the time. My wife tells me when it does, the patients stay in the ER until they can be moved elsewhere.
So I asked her, well what happens when the ER fills up?
her: then people have to wait
me: well what if they are dying
her: they dont have to wait
her: same thing everyday! The line gets longer...somedays I have 100 people in the waiting room...you should see what friday night in the fall looks like with every HS playing football games.


I mean to me...does this sound comforting? well not really. The question im trying to ask her is skewed bc of the fact that the hospital is already always busy.... I mean I guess im trying to ask someone who plows snow....well what if it snows 16" instead of 8? I still have to drive the fucking truck.....To my wife, its just her work life...500 patients can show up, she can do what she can do and somehow they manage. I mean in general is she concerned about how the hospital typically operates? YES! she has plenty of complaints and vents them to me all the time.....understaffed, etc...I could go on and on. Her biggest concern is that the people who dont need to be there will make it harder for the people who do. However, she has no fears and nothing bothers her about the thought of going to work......
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The problem is if you believe the head Dr's and reports from Italy. The US is not prepared for what is coming to our hospitals. Our Dr's and nurses have never seen what is about to happen. Having to choose between two 40 year olds. Which one lives and which one dies because you can only intubate one of them. That's more than just lining them up in the hallway.
 
Bike N Gear said:
The problem is if you believe the head Dr's and reports from Italy. The US is not prepared for what is coming to our hospitals. Our Dr's and nurses have never seen what is about to happen. Having to choose between two 40 year olds. Which one lives and which one dies because you can only intubate one of them. That's more than just lining them up in the hallway.
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Italy has 240 cases/1 million population, we have 4. Also, the Italian population is significantly older than ours. Finally, Italy has a nationalized health care system. 3 strikes
 
stb222 said:
I did a road ride with 2 people yesterday. Temps were in the 30's and all 3 of use were blowing snot rockets (my nose runs constantly while riding below 50). Not going to lie, it kinda grossed me out. As much as I hang back or swing out while blowing snot rockets, it just introduces alittle too much risk if someone sneezes or spits which on the front.
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RIP Kev
 
rick81721 said:
Italy has 240 cases/1 million population, we have 4. Also, the Italian population is significantly older than ours. Finally, Italy has a nationalized health care system. 3 strikes
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It will surprise me 0% if smoking rates per country and coronavirus cases per country are correlated. Italy has a 50% higher smoking rate in adults.
 
With regards to Italy...I am not familiar with their system of healthcare....are their less private practices...doctors/clinics/etc than say the US? Is there more of a reason for people to go and stay at the hospital? I mean we know here that they want you OUT of the hospital as quickly as possible...not sure about any of this in Italy.
 
Norm said:
It will surprise me 0% if smoking rates per country and coronavirus cases per country are correlated. Italy has a 50% higher smoking rate in adults.
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But they're saying obesity is a danger. The US has pretty high rates on that front.
 
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