Tariffs...what to make of them.

Dave Taylor said:
Serious question. Can they cut SS and if so what happens to the 30 years I have paid into it?
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That would never happen - pretty much everyone that has paid into it for years would raid Maralago.

The Social Security threat has been around for years - but yet it is still there.
 
Johnny Utah said:
That would never happen - pretty much everyone that has paid into it for years would raid Maralago.

The Social Security threat has been around for years - but yet it is still there.
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It's expected to die by 2035 and if they manage to keep it open would need to be transferred to some other type of retirement fund. If it doesn't end by 2035 it would likely be cut to 85% of your payout.
 
Johnny Utah said:
I did not dig deep into this, nor am I an expert or claiming to be. From what I see over the last year there were (and probably have been) some nasty politics in NYC.

NYC, like LA and Chicago set a lot of the tone for this country. If NYC can look more like Rudy was the mayor vs. Dinkins it would be a lot easier on Trump.

If Trump can play ball with Adam’s to play on his team then I think he would consider a pardon. I would be okay with that if it cleaned the place up - our judicial system does that all the time - think of the RICO days. Adam’s playing ball with Trump would also be a huge part of the immigration game, as Adam’s started to push against the Biden immigration policies and all of a sudden he had legal issues - what a surprise.

I also think the “Gulf of America” name does a few things, as our southern border becomes more secure Trump will return the name back - sure he thinks he looks majestic doing this and his base feels he is standing up for us by calling it the Gulf of America. It also fires back on the crazy renaming of things and forgetting of history from the prior administration - Fort Bragg is now Fort Bragg again, and everyone can buy their favorite Aunt off Walmarts app now.

I don’t believe re-writing history or forgetting things is the way to go. History is grand with dark moments, such is humanity.

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Sigh ok...you should read up on the case first....

Adams has been taking money from foreign individuals for influence....Namely Turkey....in one case for example.... Eric Adams overuled the fire inspector and allowed the new Turkish consulate to open without a fire inspection..he's been given gifts, free trips,....approx 10 million in illegal funds from Turkey...VERY similar to what Mr. Gold Bars menendez was doing in NJ....but eric adams was taking his payments in travel and illegal campaign contributions. They charged him and his trial was set to start in April....Mind you he STAUNCH anti trump up to this point, he is democrat after all.....So then trump gets elected...he meets with him...Trump makes him a deal....Let my ICE people do whatever they want to in NYC and ill get the DOJ prosecutors to drop your charges.....However, if you fuck us over, we'll just have the charges reinstated....hence why he wasnt just pardoned. GREAT!!! Only problem is then when trump tells Danielle Sasoon the prosecutor....(who worked for Scalia and is by all account conservative) She says....um wtf? This is BLATENT quid pro quo and this is illeagal...im not doing...and she quits....Then 6 more prosecutors quit after refusing to do the same. They are still trying to get the charges dismissed as of today.

Now if this doesnt bother you....hey fine...but this is what corruption looks like....Tell someone to do something illegal, they refuse and quit....keep asking until you find the person who is loyal enough to do it....HAVE them do it...now you have them....If they ever turn on you, they will be charged with whatever this illegal act was. You voted for it, you got it.

And I LOVE what gets MAGA upset....WE WANT OUR RACISM BACK DAMMIT!!! How dare pepsi change our syrup...We want to think about owning slaves while eating pancakes! LOL...trump can change the name of an international body of water....but pepsi better not touch our pancake syrup lololol....I love it.
 
Johnny Utah said:
That would never happen - pretty much everyone that has paid into it for years would raid Maralago.

The Social Security threat has been around for years - but yet it is still there.
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UtahJoe said:
trump can change the name of an international body of water....but pepsi better not touch our pancake syrup lololol....I love it.
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I'm looking forward to Canada being a state so we can get real maple syrup cheaper. That other stuff is just crap regardless of who is on the label.
 
Dave Taylor said:
Serious question. Can they cut SS and if so what happens to the 30 years I have paid into it?
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The thirty years you've been paying into has paid the recipients of ss for the last thirty years. When you collect you will be paid for by the people paying in at that time. If you think they are saving that money for when you start collecting you are sadly mistaken.
 
Robson said:
No, that is not going to happen. He would lose all his MAGA idiots. Is it possible? They have Congress so technically it could be done.
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News flash: it is happening. Let me explain, there are red states like West Virginia that are taker states, that is they take more from the government than they give. WV can only pay 80% of what it needs to run its government. The other 20% comes from the federal government. WV will have to close most of its schools if the department of education is closed down.
 
LOL, and this great....This is like MAGA IQ 101 here....Trump and DOGE fire over 1000 Veterans affairs workers the other day to save 98 million over the course of a year.....

Meantime, we spent somewhere between 5 and 10 million for Trump to do a lap of Daytona with the beast. LOL can't you just FEEL that debt clock slowing down?......now were REALLY getting value for our tax dollars hahahah...Love it. Dumbasses.

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UtahJoe said:
Sigh ok...you should read up on the case first....

Adams has been taking money from foreign individuals for influence....Namely Turkey....in one case for example.... Eric Adams overuled the fire inspector and allowed the new Turkish consulate to open without a fire inspection..he's been given gifts, free trips,....approx 10 million in illegal funds from Turkey...VERY similar to what Mr. Gold Bars menendez was doing in NJ....but eric adams was taking his payments in travel and illegal campaign contributions. They charged him and his trial was set to start in April....Mind you he STAUNCH anti trump up to this point, he is democrat after all.....So then trump gets elected...he meets with him...Trump makes him a deal....Let my ICE people do whatever they want to in NYC and ill get the DOJ prosecutors to drop your charges.....However, if you fuck us over, we'll just have the charges reinstated....hence why he wasnt just pardoned. GREAT!!! Only problem is then when trump tells Danielle Sasoon the prosecutor....(who worked for Scalia and is by all account conservative) She says....um wtf? This is BLATENT quid pro quo and this is illeagal...im not doing...and she quits....Then 6 more prosecutors quit after refusing to do the same. They are still trying to get the charges dismissed as of today.

Now if this doesnt bother you....hey fine...but this is what corruption looks like....Tell someone to do something illegal, they refuse and quit....keep asking until you find the person who is loyal enough to do it....HAVE them do it...now you have them....If they ever turn on you, they will be charged with whatever this illegal act was. You voted for it, you got it.

And I LOVE what gets MAGA upset....WE WANT OUR RACISM BACK DAMMIT!!! How dare pepsi change our syrup...We want to think about owning slaves while eating pancakes! LOL...trump can change the name of an international body of water....but pepsi better not touch our pancake syrup lololol....I love it.
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The Adam’s thing does bother me - I read that. Pretty fawked up. Classic RICO though, Trump will use him as a State asset - it won’t be the first or last time in this administration or any other.

The syrup being racist was a bit much. It seems racism can be found in anything these days.

I touched on my opinion of the Gulf earlier.
 
UtahJoe said:
LOL, and this great....This is like MAGA IQ 101 here....Trump and DOGE fire over 1000 Veterans affairs workers the other day to save 98 million over the course of a year.....

Meantime, we spent somewhere between 5 and 10 million for Trump to do a lap of Daytona with the beast. LOL can't you just FEEL that debt clock slowing down?......now were REALLY getting value for our tax dollars hahahah...Love it. Dumbasses.

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I thought it was awesome. This guy has been front and center, constantly answering questions and letting you know what he is doing daily. Compared to the last administration the transparency has been great - Biden rarely spoke and was on vacation over 30% of his term - Biden’s detail traveled with him while he is there - so how is that any different?

It’s nice to hear a positive message from politicians in America - like what I grew up with in the 80’s. The last four years the message many Americans received was that were are a country of ignorant racists. That went well in the last election from Biden who was the “Unifier in Chief”.

You may not like the message, content or delivery - but a lot of people do. He was elected by people that wanted this.

Government is bloated and inefficient - keep the cuts coming.

Let’s see what happens in two years.

Even better - let’s see what happens in NJ in November.
 
Mtbdog said:
The thirty years you've been paying into has paid the recipients of ss for the last thirty years. When you collect you will be paid for by the people paying in at that time. If you think they are saving that money for when you start collecting you are sadly mistaken.
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SS is the biggest ponzi scheme
 
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