I have a frIend who is always preaching about the deep state, what the fuck is wrong with people? The fucking Indian guy isn’t even a medical doctor.
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I have a frIend who is always preaching about the deep state, what the fuck is wrong with people? The fucking Indian guy isn’t even a medical doctor.
Scary! I’m 51, I am fortunate for now, that I have a job I can do from home, for now. However, my most successful sales have all been through in person meetings. Even if the hospitals can handle all new cases, I don’t want to catch a contagious virus, that, if I get it, I have a 98% chance of survival. I don’t like those odds. So, what do I do, if we all open back up with no vaccine, or drugs to cure it? I don’t know how we all get back to work, without one of those things. I don’t think anybody has a clue, how could we?This is scary.
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so the good news is that at 51, NY data is showing between 0.2% and 0.4% mortality, and as Rick pointed out, 86% of those cases have a
co-morbidity. I still don't like spinning the wheel at 1 in 5000, but I'm sure i'd go sit in an outside venue with adequate spacing and listen
to some music, or get together with a few people and fire up the grill. A little normal would be nice!
I would love to have some people over, do some grilling! All for it. I like Your 1-5000 odds way better than what I was thinking, but I still don’t like those odds either. I feel worse about my kids, 12 and 15, they haven’t seen their friends for over a month.
I feel bad for all of us, but i really feel for seniors in high school and college. They are totally missing out. I hope we hold Off on any decisions for school, if here is any chance they can get back, I’m all for it, even if it’s only 2 weeks in late June/July.
I’m curious what everyone’s experiences are when venturing out into the wild. I’ve only been out a few times. The last week or so, each time, every person I see is wearing a mask and gloves. The stores have the protective barrier. This is everywhere I have been.
If this is consistent for everywhere I’d be optimistic. But I doubt it is.
If this is consistent for everywhere I’d be optimistic. But I doubt it is.
School ain’t gonna happen until September and even then it may be somewhat limited and/or protected. I was reading something last night about some preliminary California restart ideas and they’re pretty over-the-top, and indicated that even fall school May see something form of measures introduced to limit the spread.
The re-up of cases in Taiwan/Singapore/Hong Kong has people cautious in how we go about the return to normalcy.
Conversely Canada is possibly going to send the youngest kids back to school. I agree with that move personally.
The re-up of cases in Taiwan/Singapore/Hong Kong has people cautious in how we go about the return to normalcy.
Conversely Canada is possibly going to send the youngest kids back to school. I agree with that move personally.
I’ve only been to a few places. Acme is like you say. Costco the same but they installed big plastic shields to protect the cashiers. Walgreens also has shields.
The local farmers market was less strict but the kids there had gloves & masks but the masks were an obvious annoyance they took off as soon as anyone left the store.
But to hear other people talk a lot of food service places are less stringent.
All that said I still believe the vast majority of the cases now are coming from the healthcare sector. It’s almost like a self-fulfilling prophecy but not really. The snake is eating it’s tail perhaps.
mfennell
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I'm right there too but I don't want to be part of the chain that kills someone's grandma nor do I care to see what happens if we were to get to code-Italy in the hospitals. Also, some additional percentage of those who survive come out the other side with lung damage which I could do without.
Yeah, until there’s a cure or vaccine, just not sure how you do anything without risking some serious consequences.
i was in home depot, and they have created separation between cashiers and customers Plexiglass, and a table. cc machine separated from register.
Masks are required in food stores. I've seen people with them on while in their car. I guess if you just loaded up on groceries??
- i go for a quick hit - pick up some fruit, eggs...use my own bag to shop, then hit self check-out.
the only thing i touch that i didn't bring in, or isn't going home is the touch screen.
wegmans has antibacterial gel at the doors. so on the way in and out.
Lowes has no barriers, but all employees are masked and gloved.
fox lumber (clinton) has separated their associates with plastic sheets, credit card machine outside the sheet. no need to sign, so just insert card.
- yard workers, not so much.
Matt's red rooster- flemington. order online/Drive through take out. Servers are masked and gloved, just open the trunk and they drop it in.
Liquor stores - was whatevs, i haven't been in one in a couple weeks, so not sure if anything changed.
mfennell
Well-Known Member
Stop&Shop in Middletown was on it. Shields and masks for all the cashiers. Arrows throughout the store to encourage everyone to move in the same direction. Bags over the CC machines and someone cleaned the entire self-checkout station before I showed up. I realized as I finished that they will give you a hand scanner to make your purchases as you shop, which would save a ton of time and mean no messing around with checkout at all except to swipe your card.
Delicious orchards has been doing a 'pre-pack' deal every day. They put together a fixed bag of groceries. You pull up, they put it in your trunk, swipe your card (the reader is on a stick), and off you go.
We've been having bi-weekly all-hands meetings at work to discuss the situation. The current stance is that our offices will remain closed except for critical personnel at least through May. As I said earlier, I attribute the very few cases at my company (6 or 7 out of 8500) to their serious tracking, discussion, and early action.
Tim
aka sptimmy43
Have any of you numbers guys been looking into the accuracy of the testing? Many sources (I'm not going to include links, you can find and vet them easily enough yourself) are citing a false negative rate of 30%. A huge number of tests were hastily brought to market with presumably little quality control and reduced oversight from the FDA. Different labs are using different chemicals to analyze the tests which could affect the results. Oh and the test is difficult to administer correctly in the first place.
What implications does this have for the numbers? What implications does it have for our understanding of where we are in the outbreak?
What implications does this have for the numbers? What implications does it have for our understanding of where we are in the outbreak?
A Potted Plant
Honorary Sod
On Monday while working her current lead brought in pound cake and other stuff. Her co-workers spoke about going out shopping like normal. If that dumb stuff doesn't get her last week a coworker came back after a two week quarantine for being positive still showing enough symptoms, sick enough where she is back out sick this week.
At the beginning I always thought her biggest risk is other nurses and since they're not immune from stupidity I'm a bit more concerned.
I've been out every day and get to deal with the public daily. Most store employees are at least making an attempt to look safe. Corona Virus has done nothing to make the general population any smarter than they were before. Stupidity still prevails.
A Potted Plant
Honorary Sod
2 weeks ago but we cancelled it because it was 2 days late, ShopRite orders have been consistent suck this may be our last one
rick81721
Lothar
By out do you mean going to a store? I'm outside every day down here, riding and/or driving to a store (or just driving). People outside walking and riding maybe 10% wear a mask or face covering. I go to Publix about every 3-4 days (BTW TP and paper towels are coming back) - I'd say 75% are wearing face coverings. When picking up takeout, the servers all have masks and gloves.
A Potted Plant
Honorary Sod
Any idea why there are still school buses going around