This Thread Blows - C19 and beyond

Yeah, I’ll be a better educated consumer after the webinar this afternoon, but I am currently skeptical about testing as it is now.
I’d rather see a focus on nailing down accuracy than going widespread with what we have.

accuracy of virus testing? it's as good as it will get - it's a viral load issue that varies based on time since infection. the only way around it is to test everyone every day
 
No it is not. 38,800 traffic deaths all last year. 106 per day. 46,000 COVID-19 deaths in the past 6 weeks. 2800 yesterday.

check your numbers.
deaths/ million population in the US as %.
"covid 19" 0.0141% (in quotes because this number is inflated)
Auto deaths 0.0118%
So I was wrong. Covid is slightly more deadly.

If you don't want to die stay home, its really that simple. Millions unemployed, Millions at risk of losing everything, millions of small businesses never re-opening... suicides will be at an all time high this year. All because of a 99.98% survival rate.

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
 
We only need 20k more deaths to be 0.02% of the US population. I think the death rate will be far greater than 0.02%.
 
check your numbers.
deaths/ million population in the US as %.
"covid 19" 0.0141% (in quotes because this number is inflated)
Auto deaths 0.0118%
So I was wrong. Covid is slightly more deadly.

If you don't want to die stay home, its really that simple. Millions unemployed, Millions at risk of losing everything, millions of small businesses never re-opening... suicides will be at an all time high this year. All because of a 99.98% survival rate.

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
For your survival rate to work, there would have to be over 217 million people already infected in the US. That's far greater than the 840k confirmed cases.
 
Looking at north (colder) vs south (warmer). I threw out NY and NJ as outliers, and compared PA + OH + MI + MA to TX + FL:

TX + FL: 50M population, 50K cases - 1000/M
P+O+M+M: 42M population, 125K cases - 2980/M

So 3 times the incidence in the northern states. Population density? Timing of mitigation? Climate? All??
 
For your survival rate to work, there would have to be over 217 million people already infected in the US. That's far greater than the 840k confirmed cases.
Three studies have show that infections are anywhere from 35 to 85x greater that current confirmed cases.
 
It's one big pissing contest where the winner gets to say "I told you so".
Are you in?

Sure, I'm in, if I live.

@68nova200 is comparing C19 to the flu.

Governor Murphy said on Saturday, I recall, that the deaths from C19 in the last six weeks (and that is a rapidly growing number) are equal to the last three years of the flu. Who should I believe? Let's see, Murphy was educated at Harvard and Wharton.

Please chime in here @68nova200 in case I missed your doctrate in epidemiology?


So I ask: mathmuch?
 
It's one big pissing contest where the winner gets to say "I told you so".
Are you in?

i'm going to end up with 10k rounds of ammo either way...bring on the zombies, or aliens.
although you'd think the aliens would just end up getting it.

stats can be very deceiving. that study in santa clara with 35-85x more cases than confirmed scaled up to 4% of their population.
it isn't like NY at 1.25% would scale up to 85% - or maybe it would?

like this stat

Oil soars 25% in single day.
it went from $11 to $14. futures, not spot price (~$24.)

@thegock - he doesn't need a degree to look around and make an assessment.
I don't agree with @68nova200 - but he does get his own opinion, which forces us to sharpen ours.
the reason i don't agree is i think it is too static - that is all.
 
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