Bentonville, AR/NWA

No. But for someone in NJ, you can wake up here and be riding there by lunch. Sedona is amazing but the door-to-door makes it much harder to reach. If BV were 6 hours away, it would be a different conversation. Asheville is also 12 hours away. You could decide to go to KT for the weekend on a Friday at 5pm, get 2 days of great riding in, and be home Sunday night. Sedona, BV, Asheville, etc - these fall under a different "ease of use" category.

It also depends what you are looking for. If you like the town vibe with a lot of coffee shops, restaurants, and bars, then KT is not ideal. Yes it is more of a mountain town but it is also somewhat desolate, especially on a weekday.
That brings up a great question:

of all the places that are "wake up and ride there at noon" which have you done or liked? I think of all the ones Im listing, Kingdom trails are the best developed infrastructure and trail system, but others certainly are as big. Leaving out more "local" stuff like Wiss, White Clay, anything in Jersey or in PA east of Reading/Wilkes-Barre.

Thinking about
Patapsco - Ellicott City
Laurel Highlands- Ohiopyle
Rothrock/Rattlin Creek - State College
Allegrippis - BFE
Any in southern NY/CTthat I dont know?

The first three have much more than one day's worth riding nearby. I included Allegrippis cause its more than a days trails, smaller than the rest, but still a destination.
 
Patapsco - Ellicott City
Laurel Highlands- Ohiopyle
Rothrock/Rattlin Creek - State College
Allegrippis - BFE

I have ridden all but Ohiopyle - I have never heard of this. I would not go out of the way for Patapsco. I mean no offense to that place but it is not remotely close to the caliber we are talking in this thread.

You could probably throw Lake Placid into a list like this. Green Woodlands in NH is pretty awesome but just a hair far for a day. North Conway, NH is up & coming as well.

Good convo but you may want a new thread on it.
 
 
That brings up a great question:

of all the places that are "wake up and ride there at noon" which have you done or liked? I think of all the ones Im listing, Kingdom trails are the best developed infrastructure and trail system, but others certainly are as big. Leaving out more "local" stuff like Wiss, White Clay, anything in Jersey or in PA east of Reading/Wilkes-Barre.

Thinking about
Patapsco - Ellicott City
Laurel Highlands- Ohiopyle
Rothrock/Rattlin Creek - State College
Allegrippis - BFE
Any in southern NY/CTthat I dont know?

The first three have much more than one day's worth riding nearby. I included Allegrippis cause its more than a days trails, smaller than the rest, but still a destination.
I've done a few miles at Rothrock, Rattlin Creek and Raystown. Hit Massanutten a 2yrs ago, but felt like all we did was climb and tech.

Agree with @Norm on Lake Placid. Trails there are under the radar and nice town area.

Trip this past Aug and hit some other locations in VT that would fit the wake up and ride at noon. Stayed at Little River S.P. in Waterbury.
On the drive up, hit Slate Valley Trails near Poultney. Missed a section that could be done on a 2nd day. https://www.strava.com/activities/5776790907
Cady Hill, Stowe and Von Trappe trails. https://www.strava.com/activities/5782492252
Mad River Valley trails and a new flow trail near Sugarbush. https://www.strava.com/activities/5787727026
Pay-to-play trails at Sleepy Hollow Ski area. https://www.strava.com/activities/5793276761
 
I've done a few miles at Rothrock, Rattlin Creek and Raystown. Hit Massanutten a 2yrs ago, but felt like all we did was climb and tech.

Agree with @Norm on Lake Placid. Trails there are under the radar and nice town area.

Trip this past Aug and hit some other locations in VT that would fit the wake up and ride at noon. Stayed at Little River S.P. in Waterbury.
On the drive up, hit Slate Valley Trails near Poultney. Missed a section that could be done on a 2nd day. https://www.strava.com/activities/5776790907
Cady Hill, Stowe and Von Trappe trails. https://www.strava.com/activities/5782492252
Mad River Valley trails and a new flow trail near Sugarbush. https://www.strava.com/activities/5787727026
Pay-to-play trails at Sleepy Hollow Ski area. https://www.strava.com/activities/5793276761
If you join VMBA and choose the Fellowship of the Wheel as your chapter, Sleepy Hollow is free.
 
If you're thinking Bentonville and Asheville, I'd also throw in Knoxville into the mix. You can get at least 2 solid days (if not more depending on what you like) out of their Urban Wilderness area. The XC trails are very solid - if you rode everything, you can probably get ~50 miles out of it. And there's jump lines that you can go up and down endlessly if you're into that sort of thing. There's more trails on the outskirts of the city. With Smokey Mountains National Park not to far away, you can probably make a week out of it easily.

https://www.strava.com/activities/8079799795

Speaking of Asheville, there's really no trails inside the city. You kinda of to drive at least 20-30min from Asheville to get to anything worth spending a decent amount of time at. And if you want the ride forever kind of stuff, you want to stay near Brevard, not Asheville (almost 1hr drive).

The part of Appalachians where GA, NC and TN meet look kinda intriguing to me. Just based on Trailforks squiggly lines, looks pretty remote off the beaten path kinda stuff. I might try to do some bike packing in the area this winter.

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Tomorrow, I'll be riding at Vee Hollow (foot hills of Smoky Mtns), then do the drive through the park and if I have enough time, hit some of the trail at Wolf Creek.
 
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I’ve been looking into riding/camping northeast Georgia. A couple of shuttle parks have popped up recently with XC trails mixed in. Lemme know if you make plans.
You should totally explore those so us more northern than you have somewhere to ride when it's cold up here.
 
I just returned from a solid four days of riding in Bentonville, AR. It’s a fun town with a bunch of bike shops, restaurants, ice cream parlors and of course, the Walmart museum. 😁 Oh, and many trails in and around town.

We stayed in Bella Vista, which is 20 mins away and where the Back 40 trail system is located. These trails run behind, around, and through a hilly suburban community. It’s all bench cut, scree covered, singletrack. If you live in Bella Vista, it’s great having these trails in your backyard …but I would not say it’s a must do trail for outside visitors.

A local couple, who I befriended some years back and who live in Bella Vista gave us a tour of two other trails, Little Sugar and Tunnel Vision. Like any place, when you know the trails and the best direction to ride them, you will have a better experience. We certainly had fun. They even took us to a secret beer stash in the middle of our ride. I could see how this would really suck if you had to fiddle with trail forks or accidentally found yourself riding in a direction that wasn’t ideal.

The draw and what’s cool about Bentonville is how bike-centric the town is. There are whole families riding $4,000 mountain bikes, folks shopping with cargo eBikes and buildings designed so you can ride to your 4th floor office. There are a half dozen bike shops and a Specialized satellite location. It is also home to YT bikes. You see bike racks everywhere with expensive bikes (unlocked). There is also a cool coffee shop (with beer taps) strategically placed between the mountain bike trails and a pathway that leads you back to town.

You can access all the signature trails from this pathway. It runs all the way from Fayetteville, through Bentonville and continues on past the Walmart corporate campus. There are pumptrack style dirt trails that run beside, through and over the pathway. You’ll also find these weird off-shoot trails that have art exhibit style metal structure you can ride on. It’s a bit gimmicky but cool to see. The actual mountain bike trails can be accessed by climbing various singletrack connectors, which split off from the pathway.

One area called Slaughter Pen was my favorite and IMO worth an afternoon. You climb a mellow trail to different peaks, one of which is called “The Castle.” From there you can ride down several flow trails. There is also a skills park and drop progression zone. All the runs are short but well built so you can session this place all day.

The other well known spot is called Coler. I didn’t think it was that great. It consist of a paved access path that you ride to the top of a hill (there are no mountains here). From there you have several ways down. The funnest run is a short, double black diamond slopestyle course with big drops and gap jumps. It’s the type of trail that requires a fullface helmet and enduro or DH bike. Since we were all on trail bikes, we did not ride it- thus no fun was had. The other options were a mix of beginner/intermediate flow trails or advanced chunky and scree covered technical trails. The flow trails were not steep enough. Getting enough speed to clear some tabletops required too much pedaling. Elevation is like 200’ so the runs are all short. After riding everything 2-3x, it got pretty boring.

I hear there are “better” trails an hour or so outside of Bentonville. I doubt I’ll ever go back to explore them. Is it worth a visit? Maybe if one lived close enough to drive. Considering that Kingdom Trails in VT offer more variety with 4x the elevation, I’d go there before I got on a plane back to North West Arkansas.
 
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I just returned from a solid four days of riding in Bentonville, AR. It’s a fun town with a bunch of bike shops, restaurants, ice cream stores and of course, the Walmart museum. 😁 Oh, and many trails in and around town.

We stayed in Bella Vista, which is 20 mins away and where the Back 40 trail system is located. These trails run behind, around, and through a hilly suburban community. It’s all bench cut, scree covered, singletrack. If you live in Bella Vista, it’s great having these trails in your backyard …but I would not say it’s a must do trail for outside visitors.

A local couple, who I befriended some years back and who live in Bella Vista gave us a tour of two other trails, Little Sugar and Tunnel Vision. Like any place, when you know the trails and the best direction to ride them, you will have a better experience. We certainly had fun. They even took us to a secret beer stash in the middle of our ride. I could see how this would really suck if you had to fiddle with trail forks or accidentally found yourself riding in a direction that wasn’t ideal.

The draw and what’s cool about Bentonville is how bike-centric the town is. There are whole families riding $4,000 mountain bikes, folks shopping with cargo eBikes and buildings designed so you can ride to your 4th floor office. There are a half dozen bike shops and a Specialized satellite location. It is also home to YT bikes. You see bike racks everywhere with expensive bikes (unlocked). There is also a cool coffee shop (with beer taps) strategically placed between the mountain bike trails and a pathway that leads you back to town.

You can access all the signature trails from this pathway. It runs all the way from Fayetteville, through Bentonville and continues on past the Walmart corporate campus. There are pumptrack style dirt trails that run beside, through and over the pathway. You’ll also find these weird off-shoot trails that have art exhibit style metal structure you can ride on. It’s a bit gimmicky but cool to see. The actual mountain bike trails can be accessed by climbing various singletrack connectors, which split off from the pathway.

One area called Slaughter Pen was my favorite and IMO worth an afternoon. You climb a mellow trail to different peaks, one of which is called “The Castle.” From there you can ride down several flow trails. There is also a skills park and drop progression zone. All the runs are short but well built so you can session this place all day.

The other well known spot is called Coler. I didn’t think it was that great. It consist of a paved access path that you ride to the top of a hill (there are no mountains here). From there you have several ways down. The funnest run is a short, double black diamond slopestyle course with big drops and gap jumps. It’s the type of trail that requires a fullface helmet and enduro or DH bike. Since we were all on trail bikes, we did not ride it- thus no fun was had. The other options were a mix of beginner/intermediate flow trails or advanced chunky and scree covered technical trails. The flow trails were not steep enough. Getting enough speed to clear some tabletops required too much pedaling. Elevation is like 200’ so the runs are all short. After riding everything 2-3x, it got pretty boring.

I hear there are “better” trails an hour or so outside of Bentonville. I doubt I’ll ever go back to explore them. Is it worth a visit? Maybe if one lived close enough to drive. Considering that Kingdom Trails in VT offer more variety with 4x the elevation, I’d go there before I got on a plane back to North West Arkansas.
Wow. Thanks for the write-up! A few of us are going out to Bentonville in 3 weeks. We were planning on slaughter pen, coler, hand cut hollow, little sugar and north 40. Sounds like I know how to prioritize now. Have you been to rays town lake/alegrippis? How does the north 40 compare? Sounds similar. Was at KT last year, loved it too.
 
Wow. Thanks for the write-up! A few of us are going out to Bentonville in 3 weeks. We were planning on slaughter pen, coler, hand cut hollow, little sugar and north 40. Sounds like I know how to prioritize now. Have you been to rays town lake/alegrippis? How does the north 40 compare? Sounds similar. Was at KT last year, loved it too.

Do you mean Back 40?

IMO Little Sugar and Back 40 are not worth it. Raystown is better than both.

My overall opinion is the same as A.S. I do think I'll go back one day but like after I retire and I'm touring the country riding bikes. So you know, maybe never.

I'd look into Blowing Springs and Fitzgerald Mountain as alternate options. Also, check out the Railyard on YouTube if that's your thing.
 
Wow. Thanks for the write-up! A few of us are going out to Bentonville in 3 weeks. We were planning on slaughter pen, coler, hand cut hollow, little sugar and north 40. Sounds like I know how to prioritize now. Have you been to rays town lake/alegrippis? How does the north 40 compare? Sounds similar. Was at KT last year, loved it too.
Go and have fun. Explore and make your own judgement. A few places I highly recommend to eat are, Wrights BBQ in Rogers, AR. (Not the one in Bentonville), grab dinner at The Preachers Son in Bentonville and for lunch, check out The First Seat Pub & Grill.

If you like downhill type stuff, check out the Leatherwood downhill trail system in Eureka Springs. Although I did not ride here, I was told it’s worth the 50 min drive. (Check out YouTube videos of the place HERE.)
 
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We just got back. Did Slaughter Pen, Coler, the connectors between those two, Blowing Springs and Tunnel Vision. Did the first three because theyre the OG of Bentonville. I thought they were all great fun, good flow and expansive. Talked with a few mechanics at the Meteor and were drawn more to the last 2 mentioned, they steered us away from back 40. Blowing springs because it was billed as more technical than most Bentonville riding and good in wet weather so we rode it immediately after rain. It had some bench cut flow like Carvins Cove in VA, which I enjoy, mixed in with rock sections with challenging tech and mild exposure. Those were not rolling miles, felt more like Jungle Habitat. The best IMO is Tunnel vision in Bella Vista. I found it a great all around trail, 25 mi, 3k vert. TV had tight switchbacks, long flowing bench cuts, some lung busting climbs and plenty of features and rock gardens. Had a blast.
 
Heading out next week for Little Sugar 100k.


Is the route... Seems like I'll hit a bunch of what is mentioned here. Probably will have a light ride Monday and a quick ride Tuesday morning to play with. Probably end up at Slaughter Pen one of those.
 
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