southernerinnj
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Two of my top 5 for sure!
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Two of my top 5 for sure!
Today I rest.
I've read before that if you get enough rest the days leading up to a race, the night before really doesn't matter that much. In general this jives with my own experience. So I make it a point to try and get a good night of sleep 2 nights before the race. If you can get good sleep 3 nights before the race as well, you're really in good shape. It then makes waking up at 5:00 on race day less of an issue.
Tomorrow I will sleep in again and do the same ride I did before the last race, 1:15 or so with a few brief pushes and a short effort into threshold to keep the legs fresh. This will be the first race in a few that I don't get a 3 hour ride in on the Friday before the event.
As for mud, everyone rides the same course so I really don't pay it much attention. I don't think about what tires I should run because I don't think it matters.
I've read before that if you get enough rest the days leading up to a race, the night before really doesn't matter that much. In general this jives with my own experience. So I make it a point to try and get a good night of sleep 2 nights before the race. If you can get good sleep 3 nights before the race as well, you're really in good shape. It then makes waking up at 5:00 on race day less of an issue.
Tomorrow I will sleep in again and do the same ride I did before the last race, 1:15 or so with a few brief pushes and a short effort into threshold to keep the legs fresh. This will be the first race in a few that I don't get a 3 hour ride in on the Friday before the event.
As for mud, everyone rides the same course so I really don't pay it much attention. I don't think about what tires I should run because I don't think it matters.
ArmyOfNone
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Steve Vai
Endurance Guy: Tolerates most of us.
Right now he's built a mini slip-pad in his basement that he's covered with dirt imported from Newburgh, adding various amounts of moisture, getting different psi/tread combination data to enter into a chart, and then will compare that data against data collected from a weather balloon hovering 1/2 way around the race course. Of course with the weather being as unstable as it is, no doubt final tire choice will be made no earlier than 5am Sunday morning.😀
-Jim.
ArmyOfNone
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No! That it was not.
:rofl: Maddawg is providing him the up to date info.
ChrisG
Unapologetic Lifer for Rock and Roll
The fix is in...
Day before race, rinse and repeat the last day before race:
http://trail.motionbased.com/trail/activity/8479798
Nothing amazing. The routine is like this:
* 30 minute warmuo
* 10 minutes threshold
* 10 minutues easy
* 10 minutes threshold
* easy back home
Drink water on ride, and Endurox when I get home. Eat clean and plenty of carbs the rest of the day, but not "eat all pasta all day" mode or anything.
Fatso
Down to 175 today, second time I've seen this weight and my lowest scale number since grade school. I'm aiming for sub 170 this summer.
Tomorrow
Looks like rain. I registered already. See you there :getsome:
http://trail.motionbased.com/trail/activity/8479798
Nothing amazing. The routine is like this:
* 30 minute warmuo
* 10 minutes threshold
* 10 minutues easy
* 10 minutes threshold
* easy back home
Drink water on ride, and Endurox when I get home. Eat clean and plenty of carbs the rest of the day, but not "eat all pasta all day" mode or anything.
Fatso
Down to 175 today, second time I've seen this weight and my lowest scale number since grade school. I'm aiming for sub 170 this summer.
Tomorrow
Looks like rain. I registered already. See you there :getsome:
I'm not going to do a full write-up just yet. It was muddy, damn muddy. This is my useless GPS link, because I could not reset it between warmup and race, so it's basically every moving minute on the bike today:
http://trail.motionbased.com/trail/activity/8490703
I should have won. I did not. So it goes. I came in second.
When this story finally ends I'll post more.
http://trail.motionbased.com/trail/activity/8490703
I should have won. I did not. So it goes. I came in second.
When this story finally ends I'll post more.
well done norm. did they fry that for you? 😀
ArmyOfNone
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Norm has had a shitty day Ill tell you that. Sorry bud.
However when the story ends, I imagine it will start a little bit like this: "So I really wish I rode my SS at the race today..."
:rofl:
RNG1
Well-Known Member
Norm has had a shitty day Ill tell you that. Sorry bud.
However when the story ends, I imagine it will start a little bit like this: "So I really wish I rode my SS at the race today..."
I"ll put some money up that won't be mentioned, and double or nothing it will start more like "maybe replacing my car at this point is a strong consideration".🙂
Somehow I missed this exchange. Well, here is my race report...
Ah, a new day, a new attempt to get my car back. That's later though.
So my race, just the race. First off, I'm glad I brought gears. I don't think a SS would have been good for me yesterday. The guy who beat me was on a SS, but he was running a huge gear because he was able to keep pace on the flats but lost time on the hills.
I lined up after a good 40 minute warmup, feeling ok at best. This whole week I didn't feel that great. I'm not doing something right along the line which I need to figure out. But I don't let it bother me because I know I'll be fine. On the line I see the guy who came in 2nd at Tymor. Suddenly I know I'm not the "favorite" anymore. He goes out in first, another guy Bill is in 2nd, I'm 3rd. This is how I like to start. I know we will drop Bill, which happens before the fire road turns back. 3 minutes into the race, it's this guy and me.
We hit the fire road and it goes downhill before the climb. I make sure I give it some gas before the climb because I heard him huffing pretty badly in the preem and I want him to blow a gasket chasing the $10. He never gets the steam back, and I get the $10. I had ridden Major Mike so I knew what was coming. The pre-ride was amazingly helpful. I knew that it was best to ride right down the middle of the washed out trail so you would stay in the rut.
By the end of lap 1 I was still ahead, had passed the whole 30-34 class, and had caught all but 5 of the SSers. I was slogging though, and I asked myself if I would be able to hold the guy off if he caught me. My legs weren't feeling great, so I wasn't sure. I probably had not drank enough because my bottles were covered in mud. I chose not to eat the last gel.
On the big back-side climb he catches me, and while I am partly shocked I was not entirely so. I was trying to play it safe not to crash, and even still I almost hit 2 trees catastrophicly. From there I know we have about 25 minutes to the end, and I need to keep him in sight. I do, but just barely. We caught a few more SSers then one of the girls, and it was getting harder and harder. My legs had been threatening to cramp up several times before he caught me, and now that only got worse. I pressed through it. Leave it out there.
The last muddy section right before the end fire road probably did me in. It totally and utterly sapped me, and I was slogging through it at 2 mph maybe. I'm sure he had the same thing going on but when I got out on the fire road he had gone from 50 yards to 150 yards ahead, if not more. In hindsight I should have run through the mud. He was probably a minute ahead and I gave it all I had, but I could only cut it down to 25 seconds and he beat me.
There are any number of things I learned from this race:
1. On gas, always, especially when you know the guy beat you at Tymor
2. I may need glasses, as the amount of time spent rapidly blinking my eyes surely cost me time. There were large stretches of trail where I had to slow way down to get my sight back
3. Consider a bladder for these mud rides so I can actually drink
After I learned more about this guy, I don't feel as bad for having been caught. This is apparently his thing, and he's not exactly a slouch. He is a former expert who took 2nd at Tymor, won the NY category of the SSaP race, won Williams Lake last week, and won Stewart this week. So I'm not being fair if I say I lost the race. He ran a good race, and won. I learned some lessons.
I was talking to him after the race and he'll be at LM in 2 weeks. It's funny, like I said we slaughtered the rest of the class. If I wasn't there, he wins by 9 minutes. If he wasn't there, same story, and I'm almost surely upgrading today. But now, it's pretty fun again to have this guy to battle with. It actually might make me consider petitioning to stay in sport and battle out the series with the guy.
Ah, a new day, a new attempt to get my car back. That's later though.
So my race, just the race. First off, I'm glad I brought gears. I don't think a SS would have been good for me yesterday. The guy who beat me was on a SS, but he was running a huge gear because he was able to keep pace on the flats but lost time on the hills.
I lined up after a good 40 minute warmup, feeling ok at best. This whole week I didn't feel that great. I'm not doing something right along the line which I need to figure out. But I don't let it bother me because I know I'll be fine. On the line I see the guy who came in 2nd at Tymor. Suddenly I know I'm not the "favorite" anymore. He goes out in first, another guy Bill is in 2nd, I'm 3rd. This is how I like to start. I know we will drop Bill, which happens before the fire road turns back. 3 minutes into the race, it's this guy and me.
We hit the fire road and it goes downhill before the climb. I make sure I give it some gas before the climb because I heard him huffing pretty badly in the preem and I want him to blow a gasket chasing the $10. He never gets the steam back, and I get the $10. I had ridden Major Mike so I knew what was coming. The pre-ride was amazingly helpful. I knew that it was best to ride right down the middle of the washed out trail so you would stay in the rut.
By the end of lap 1 I was still ahead, had passed the whole 30-34 class, and had caught all but 5 of the SSers. I was slogging though, and I asked myself if I would be able to hold the guy off if he caught me. My legs weren't feeling great, so I wasn't sure. I probably had not drank enough because my bottles were covered in mud. I chose not to eat the last gel.
On the big back-side climb he catches me, and while I am partly shocked I was not entirely so. I was trying to play it safe not to crash, and even still I almost hit 2 trees catastrophicly. From there I know we have about 25 minutes to the end, and I need to keep him in sight. I do, but just barely. We caught a few more SSers then one of the girls, and it was getting harder and harder. My legs had been threatening to cramp up several times before he caught me, and now that only got worse. I pressed through it. Leave it out there.
The last muddy section right before the end fire road probably did me in. It totally and utterly sapped me, and I was slogging through it at 2 mph maybe. I'm sure he had the same thing going on but when I got out on the fire road he had gone from 50 yards to 150 yards ahead, if not more. In hindsight I should have run through the mud. He was probably a minute ahead and I gave it all I had, but I could only cut it down to 25 seconds and he beat me.
There are any number of things I learned from this race:
1. On gas, always, especially when you know the guy beat you at Tymor
2. I may need glasses, as the amount of time spent rapidly blinking my eyes surely cost me time. There were large stretches of trail where I had to slow way down to get my sight back
3. Consider a bladder for these mud rides so I can actually drink
After I learned more about this guy, I don't feel as bad for having been caught. This is apparently his thing, and he's not exactly a slouch. He is a former expert who took 2nd at Tymor, won the NY category of the SSaP race, won Williams Lake last week, and won Stewart this week. So I'm not being fair if I say I lost the race. He ran a good race, and won. I learned some lessons.
I was talking to him after the race and he'll be at LM in 2 weeks. It's funny, like I said we slaughtered the rest of the class. If I wasn't there, he wins by 9 minutes. If he wasn't there, same story, and I'm almost surely upgrading today. But now, it's pretty fun again to have this guy to battle with. It actually might make me consider petitioning to stay in sport and battle out the series with the guy.
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Today's useless ride:
http://trail.motionbased.com/trail/activity/8504341
Aim
The aim was to do the same intervals I did with Ben last weekend, 7x2:4, then tempo ride it home.
Pull the Plug
1:12 into the first interval, I pulled the plug. I was not responding, my legs were killing me, I was panting more than I ever do, and my HR was below what it should have been. I was losing steam rapidly and there was no way I was going to make 2 minutes. In the first 30 seconds I could feel trouble brewing and at 1:12 I said no, it wasn't going to happen.
Lemonade
This was maybe 40 minutes into the ride, so I said screw it, let's try to make 2 hours and burn some calories. When you can stand to lose some pounds, there's no such thing as junk miles, per se. If nothing else I'll burn some extra calories and hopefully make a faster dent in that goal.
Tomorrow
If it stays dry, going to take the SS to LM. Race in less than 2 weeks. This time it's not a discussion. I'm bringing 1 gear to this one.
http://trail.motionbased.com/trail/activity/8504341
Aim
The aim was to do the same intervals I did with Ben last weekend, 7x2:4, then tempo ride it home.
Pull the Plug
1:12 into the first interval, I pulled the plug. I was not responding, my legs were killing me, I was panting more than I ever do, and my HR was below what it should have been. I was losing steam rapidly and there was no way I was going to make 2 minutes. In the first 30 seconds I could feel trouble brewing and at 1:12 I said no, it wasn't going to happen.
Lemonade
This was maybe 40 minutes into the ride, so I said screw it, let's try to make 2 hours and burn some calories. When you can stand to lose some pounds, there's no such thing as junk miles, per se. If nothing else I'll burn some extra calories and hopefully make a faster dent in that goal.
Tomorrow
If it stays dry, going to take the SS to LM. Race in less than 2 weeks. This time it's not a discussion. I'm bringing 1 gear to this one.
