Went to Valvoline over near Metropark last Wednesday. There had to be 7 employees standing around with nothing to do. I was in and out in 15 minutes. Maybe there is even new oil in there.
Car Dealer Experience Stories
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I'll sell you my winter beater. KBB value plus $2000 market adjustment and it's yours. I'll even wash it, fill it up, and drop it off at the house.
Even used cars are way up. I paid $7500 for the beater 8/19. Now Carvana will give me $9200 with 14,000 more miles on it.
Actually some guy just today, offered to buy my car as I was leaving black river roasters. He asked if I wanted to sell it anyway. No thanks.
Moped it is!
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bucknejo
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not that anyone needs any more Tesla anecdotes, but why not...
after taking delivery of my model y (and drop off of my gti trade-in, sad face) where I literally spoke to zero people, I realized the right rear door handle was not retracting properly. I took a picture & scheduled an appointment with the service feature of the phone app for the following week. a day later someone messaged me and said he was in the neighborhood and could come by in an hour. the tech fixed the door handle in about 30 mins in my driveway. I thought this was pretty cool.
after taking delivery of my model y (and drop off of my gti trade-in, sad face) where I literally spoke to zero people, I realized the right rear door handle was not retracting properly. I took a picture & scheduled an appointment with the service feature of the phone app for the following week. a day later someone messaged me and said he was in the neighborhood and could come by in an hour. the tech fixed the door handle in about 30 mins in my driveway. I thought this was pretty cool.
THATmanMANNY
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terrabike01
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I'm not directing this at you, but speaking of safety ratings, set aside the 90%+ of people driving with the phone in one hand and the steering wheel in the other, you have the factor of a self driving car self driving behind you on the road. What if a sensor fails or malfunctions and the car mows you down? Your road kill. Who's going to jail? Probably no one. And who is responsible? The driver is going to say it wasn't me, it was the car. The car manufacturer is going to say oh we'll look into it. Good luck trying to sue Tesla lol. Something to think about. I stay off the busy roads at all costs.
I’m sure many new cars are susceptible to hacking, but I imagine teslas and their infrastructure are way more at risk. Which, along the lines of what @terrabike01 was saying, what if someone hacks the sensor to ignore the red light or the tree or that cliff you’re about to drive off?
No thanks. I’ll drive my own car. Shit, I’m not ready to stop shifting my own gears.
No thanks. I’ll drive my own car. Shit, I’m not ready to stop shifting my own gears.
It is much more than that. Weaponizing the infrastructure is a concern. It is on the government radar.
Right on! About the only scenario I can think of where self driving cars might make sense is slow speed merge situations, like the Holland Tunnel. Assuming all cars merging could “talk” to one another electronically, we’d take the emotion out of merging and cars could quickly move ahead within inches of each other faster than us stubborn minded I-must-get-ahead-of-you humans. The slow speed situation would remove any risk of bodily injury and the handful of glitches (out of hundreds of thousands of cars) caused by faulty sensors and the resulting scrapes would be far outweighed by the time saved for hundreds of thousands of drivers.
terrabike01
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AMEN brother. Drive you off a cliff lol. And you bring up a great point. If countries can be hacked, I'm sure a self driving car isn't out of the question.
THATmanMANNY
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I just want it to test etc. part of the fun with the tech (while being very attentive that is)
So this is not in any way illegal...Msrp...manufacturer's SUGGESTED retail price....But dealers have been doing this for as long as I have been going to dealerships...In the 80s, buick was doing it on 87 Buick Grand nationals...I remember seeing markups on 1990 7up LX mustangs, every special corvette, vipers, dodge demons, gt500s...basically anything that a dealer can get more money than what is on the sticker......here is a perfect example....
Sold for $23,000 over the sticker price....thats the price the market is willing to pay.
The ONLY way(s) to have this not happen is either to do what ford did with the ford GT....Have a lottery, have people submit applications and be picked to be able to buy one for the sticker price at 500k....then they have to not sell the car for 3 years....this worked out awesomely for whoever bought one bc after 3 years, they are now selling for 1 million plus....pretty sweet investment.
Or...be like Ferrari, where no matter how much money you have, you CANNOT just go buy one, you have to be chosen by ferrari
Otherwise, there are a finite number of these sort after vehicles built, and either they will be all sold out in 12 seconds, or you can buy one at the market value
With the bronco, paying this markup is idiotic...its not a ZR1, GT500, 911 GT3...the production will ramp up and they will not be hard to find in the next year or two (assuming this chip shortage gets resolved) They will fix the early production issues that happen with all cars.....so makes 0 sense to pay 20k over right now.
Gasoline and water are deemed necessities by our government, not First edition Broncos.....And what happens when they hold the price during a gas shortage? Same thing that happened in the 70s...it gets sold out instantly and then there is no gasoline to buy. So make the law state....bronco has to sell for sticker price...all will be sold in 10 min, then 15min after that they will be on bring a trailer selling for 20k over that price. Im sure the members of government love this as they would prefer we all drive Chevy Bolts anyway.
JerseyPete
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You don't need a self driving car to have it steer somewhere.
Jeep hackers at it again, this time taking control of steering and braking systems
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Had a great experience last week with smythe Volvo in summit. They had the car we wanted within a few weeks and actually worked with us on price. Really refreshing after a long search for a replacement We looked for a car for several months (Lexus, Acura, infinity, Mazda) and had been disappointed with supply/pricing. Sales guy was Shaun not pushy and knew his product well.
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Uh, nope. This is why I keep my '65 Land Rover with a hand crank and only two fuses.
w_b
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Back in the 80s, my shop was the only US shop authorized by Jaguar to install Webasto electric sunroofs in the V12 XJS. When the ro-ro docked, we’d have between 10-30 brand new cars show up to be hacked up. Even back then, they had a $10k AMV sticker added to the original Jag build. Adjusted market value. Wat a crock.
Even better, if we got 30 cars, inevitably at least 7 failed to start. Brand new, already a POS. and don’t get me started on Lucas electronics…
Maybe they needed that $10k per car to get them running.
Even better, if we got 30 cars, inevitably at least 7 failed to start. Brand new, already a POS. and don’t get me started on Lucas electronics…
Maybe they needed that $10k per car to get them running.
