Steve Vai
Endurance Guy: Tolerates most of us.
“Mostly”
E-bikes are a thing
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Mr. Chainring
Steve Vai
Endurance Guy: Tolerates most of us.
Ride food doesn't count. Neither does Taco Bell. Or Swedish Fish. And Pints of Ice Cream count as Dinner.
mtn
Well-Known Member
So thanks for the responses. I’ve tried eating healthier. I always watch my sugar, especially since I’ve never had soda to drink. I stay away from candy and try to avoid trans fats and stuff with really bad ingredients. Though one thing I did forget to mention was that I have been dealing with an anti-inflammatory issue since 2017 which was also right around the time of a tick bite that was positive for Lyme. Nothing was ever set in stone since the tests went back-and-forth with the results. but one thing I did just get reminded of who is that I tested positive for a few things doing routine rheumatologist bloodwork and I have to go back to retest to see if there were any false results. And I have to go to the hematologist before the year is done.
Also I can’t have any red meat due to the alpha gal allergy that I’ve had since 2015.
Also I can’t have any red meat due to the alpha gal allergy that I’ve had since 2015.
Not giving advice as that would pertain I was a trained dietitian, only suggesting what seemed obvious from the opening statement from the original post. What i typed is purely from my own experience and YRMV. Best to heed what others said physical and blood work.
rick81721
Lothar
GMO is another fake issue that kooks use to scare people ignorant of science - nothing wrong with them either:
"GMOs have been found to exhibit no toxicity, in one generation or across many. Though each new product will require careful analysis and assessment of safety, it appears that GMOs as a class are no more likely to be harmful than traditionally bred and grown food sources."
https://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2015/will-gmos-hurt-my-body/
The only way I have ever lost weight after my 40th b day was to go full carnivore and cut all carbs. It means lots of organ meats and animal fats. You get the keno flu around the 3rd week while you body switch’s from carbs to fats but the weight just falls off.
Since this thread is supposed to be about e bikes….. is anyone else noticing that the heavier e bike seems to hold lines better in wet leaf conditions that a real mountain bike?
Since this thread is supposed to be about e bikes….. is anyone else noticing that the heavier e bike seems to hold lines better in wet leaf conditions that a real mountain bike?
I got to ride @jdog s pivot shuttle AM on sunday in the wet leaves and I noticed it. Bike certainly handled great and was a blast to ride....very smooth thru the chunk.
This. I had the opportunity to ride J's Pivot Shuttle AM for a road trip to Rothrock/Raystown recently. It is a super capable bike, a complete blast to ride.
At Rothrock we did our go-to fun loop, with Tussey (Kettle to Beer Tap) being the highlight. 19 miles, 2100' elevation gain, 2h 15m moving time. Having been the first time i've ridden an ebike in that kind of tech and in a group full of regular pedal bikes, I felt I should hang back and chill, not try to take the front and drop everyone. It was instantly apparent that climbs were not a thing. My heart rate was comfortably low on all of the non-tech climbs, dare I say pleasant. Thoughts like "this is cheating" and "How can this not be the future" filled my head.
Once we hit the tech spots up on the ridge, the bike really came into it's own. Between the amazing wheel/tire combo he has on it with some beefy Magic Marys and a nice wide profile, and all of the power you may need available instantly, the bike ate up whatever line choice I threw at it. I found myself cleaning stuff that in the past was really low percentage. Poor line choice, no problem, spin through it and let the bike float under you. Good line choice, no problem, same as pedaling your regular bike, but with way less effort exerted. Amazing.
Descending was super fun. No down sides to the extra weight in the tech, cornering or anything else besides a slight penalty when taking to the air or hitting drops. Not a downside per se, but a different feel under you with a much heavier bike leaving the ground. As the trip progressed this became more comfortable, especially at Raystown's little skills area, where I was able to get the feel dialed on the small drops and tabletops they have there. By the end of the trip it was as comfortable on drops as my bike, but taking to the air for my awesome 7" jumps still felt a little different. Not bad, just different and arguably more effort to launch.
Speaking of Raystown, we put in 3 more days of riding, tallying up over 60 miles and 7k' or so of elevation in the flowfest that the spot offers. This is where I dubbed the bike the Flowkeeper. It was simply amazing how easy it was to keep momentum on the short punches between descents. My times were significantly faster on long sections which had undulations. I found myself taking the lead to get ahead of the group and stopping to film them riding by pretty often. It was more or less impossible for teammates to keep up on pedal bikes, the Shuttle just ate up anything uphill, preserving the flow in a way i'd not experienced before. Ironically, this is where I often noticed the limits of this category of eBike; when descending a fast flowy section that you'd be pedaling hard to keep speed for the next climb, there is a distinct feel when it cuts off pedal assist. Not debilitating, just a distinct shut off, and it becomes an effort to pedal the bike to speeds above 20. This is very much negated though by the flow-keeping ability when the trails undulated.
Overall impression:
The bike is an absolute blast to ride. I still felt like I went for a bike ride each day, and certainly got my heart rate up and worked. Compared to my pedal bike friends though, the effort was so much less. I would probably have needed to double the mileage and elevation, or more, to come close to the effort they put in. It was simply amazing.
Battery life was excellent. I mostly rode in the "blue" setting, one above the lowest assist mode, green. When riding tech at Tussey I sometimes changed to the purple adaptive mode, which was pretty cool. The first three days of riding, the battery was never below around 1/3rd charge left when we got back to camp. On the last day I tried to kill the battery. I rode all in purple mode, or changed to red, the highest assist setting, when climbing, on the road, etc. since we rode out from camp. The bike had one bar of charge left when we got back to camp after over 4 hours elapsed time and 2h 23m moving:
- 24.39 mi
Distance - 2:23:08
Moving Time - 2,133 ft
Elevation - 176 W
Estimated Avg Power - 1,516 kJ
Energy Output
| Avg | Max | |
|---|---|---|
| Speed | 10.2 mi/h | 34.8 mi/h |
| Calories | 1,471 | |
| Temperature | 72 ℉ | |
| Elapsed Time | 4:13:11 |
Max speed was a coasting road descent btw.
So my overall impression is that when the time comes and my physical condition warrants it, an ebike will certainly be in my stable. I would consider buying one sooner than that when finances allow, to join in on some ebike group rides once in a while. It was super welcomed for this trip because i've been mostly off my bike since July with some med stuff, but where I live combined with my n+1 budget, I'm not yet in the market.
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I find the resistance to E-bikes comical at this point. They are certainly still evolving, but man are they fun. I still ride more hours on the ME-bike than the E-bike, but im now on my 7th one. Needless to say, its just another way to do something really fun.
Frank
Wookie
I’ll admit, I was resistant at first. But in my current state of health it has reopened my world of riding more, covering more territory and other parks! I’m excited to go out and ride again where before I felt self conscious of the fact that my rides were short with frequent stops, and the fact that I was working so hard for little return.
So today, I’m thinking about riding tomorrow instead of next week as this is a chemo week and I’m always too tired to ride. Now I’m jonesing to get out again. Thanks again @jdog!! ❤️
So today, I’m thinking about riding tomorrow instead of next week as this is a chemo week and I’m always too tired to ride. Now I’m jonesing to get out again. Thanks again @jdog!! ❤️
for myself...I have a ball every time I ride an ebike, and I have nothing against them at all.....as far as owning one....I still have a goal of getting faster/doing better in enduros.....Somehow at 47 coming off my worst injury, I got better at jumping bikes this year than I have ever been (not that im great or anything, but im a better version of me)....And I now that my ankle has gotten better, I look forward to doing some real training again....I have a couple of thoughts about how I could use an ebike to help with this.....Being able to do leg workouts and still ride the same day....going to some place like glen park...doing 5 runs on my regular bike takes ~2hrs or so with each climb being about 15-20min...I could do a hell of alot more runs in a day and also make it an easy day. Plus I like the idea of riding a heavy bike, then switching back to my light one.....I dont have any good evidence that this would work, but just a gut feeling....moving a bike thats 20lbs heavier around will have some benefit when you hop back on your lighter bike. It used to work nicely for the year or so that I raced MX and rode mtbs
I suppose I could also use it to tow my son around sometimes, but currently I have towed him plenty on my regular bike...I actually kind of enjoy bc its a HELL of a workout when I otherwise wouldnt get much riding with him. My wife would also love to ride it around...and while probably not enough to justify buying one....she would LOVE dropping my smart ass son...might be worth it just to watch that...hmm.
Anyway, im sure ill have one someday.
I suppose I could also use it to tow my son around sometimes, but currently I have towed him plenty on my regular bike...I actually kind of enjoy bc its a HELL of a workout when I otherwise wouldnt get much riding with him. My wife would also love to ride it around...and while probably not enough to justify buying one....she would LOVE dropping my smart ass son...might be worth it just to watch that...hmm.
Anyway, im sure ill have one someday.
Wait til you join me on an ALL cheater bike ride!!
And me 😁
rick81721
Lothar
https://lifehacker.com/clean-processed-and-other-meaningless-nutrition-buzzw-1848564480
“Clean” tops the list. It just means “things I want to believe are good,” and it does this by drawing an us-versus-them line. These foods are clean, implying that those foods are...dirty? Unless we’re talking about an omelet that got dropped on the floor, this is an absolutely meaningless distinction."
Ian F
Well-Known Member
That doesn't surprise me, but I also have experience riding heavy DH bikes with fat, grippy tires. Even my Megatower with Maxx-grip, DD casing tires holds a line through low grip sections far easier than my Spot does with its more XC-focused tires. The added travel that tends to hug the ground more also adds to grip levels and feel. I can ride tech just as well on the Spot, it's just a LOT easier on the bigger bike.
I work almost as hard on descents as I do when climbing. At my last outing at Thunder, my heartrate topped 170 at some point during every run except one and on one run topped 180. I doubt that would change on an e-bike, with the difference being instead of riding a chair lift to the top, I'd be pedaling - although I would make a point to not push as hard as I could.
I agree with a lot of this but you can take the reductio ad Absurdum path to argue a diet of Cheez-Itz is as good as eating fruits & veggies, etc.
One word I dislike is “processed” because nobody eats unprocessed food unless you’re picking stuff out of your garden. And incidentally, cooking is technically processing it.
If you slaughter your own pigs every week then ok, I’ll cede that. But eating an entirely unprocessed diet isn’t possible in this day and age.
That said, GMO fruits & veggies are better than Pringles for dinner. IMO of course.
Also, to stay on topic, I’ll be riding the eBike tomorrow.