E-bikes are a thing

Ebikes??

  • I have never ridden one

    Votes: 97 38.8%
  • I have ridden one for over an hour on a trail and I’ll never buy one

    Votes: 10 4.0%
  • I have ridden one in a trail for over an hr and I am considering one

    Votes: 20 8.0%
  • I’ll never give up my analog bike but I’ll still get an ebike

    Votes: 37 14.8%
  • Did he just say analog bike?

    Votes: 37 14.8%
  • My knees are failing and an ebike in inevitable

    Votes: 18 7.2%
  • My next bike will certainly be an ebike.

    Votes: 21 8.4%
  • I’ll never own an ebike, even when I’m 90

    Votes: 25 10.0%
  • Ebikes cause more trail damage than analog bikes

    Votes: 9 3.6%
  • Ebikes have no more trail impact than a traditional bike.

    Votes: 67 26.8%
  • I hate anyone on an ebike

    Votes: 7 2.8%
  • Anyone on a bike is a friend of mine, ebike or not

    Votes: 95 38.0%
  • I’ve been seeing ebikes in the woods regularly

    Votes: 56 22.4%
  • I’ve never seen an ebike on the trail

    Votes: 15 6.0%
  • It's called an Acoustic bike

    Votes: 14 5.6%
  • “I may consider one after my body is all used up and broken"

    Votes: 65 26.0%
  • I already own an off-road Ebike

    Votes: 41 16.4%
  • I have no interest in an e-bike

    Votes: 14 5.6%
  • Arguing against ebikes is kerfuffle

    Votes: 16 6.4%
  • I like Matty no matter what he rides

    Votes: 21 8.4%

  • Total voters
    250
Saw this article link in a recent email from The Bicycle Coalition of Greater Philadelphia.

 
Saw this article link in a recent email from The Bicycle Coalition of Greater Philadelphia.

It is hard to buy into how any option is enforced. Sure, maybe nyc and philly can reign it in but any suburban area enforcement is way down on the priority list.

Ironically escooters is like a protected class and
You see them doing way dumber stuff than the bikes are
 
It is hard to buy into how any option is enforced. Sure, maybe nyc and philly can reign it in but any suburban area enforcement is way down on the priority list.

Ironically escooters is like a protected class and
You see them doing way dumber stuff than the bikes are
Agreed. Was in NYC yesterday and the only analog bikes I saw were locked to poles. The Santa piloted tourist tour, Door Dash and Amazon delivery e-bikes were crazy. How NJ will enforce it on the state and local level is going to be interesting. How long has there been a helmet law for U16 age group? Still see that occurring pretty regularly.
 
Agreed. Was in NYC yesterday and the only analog bikes I saw were locked to poles. The Santa piloted tourist tour, Door Dash and Amazon delivery e-bikes were crazy. How NJ will enforce it on the state and local level is going to be interesting. How long has there been a helmet law for U16 age group? Still see that occurring pretty regularly.
The sudden interest is because people are starting to die on ebike or from hitting people. Enforcement will still be nothing on a state level.
 
WaPo had an article today about how Rad Power Bikes, backed by $300mm of capital investment, is teetering on the edge of going out of business. One of the nuggets there in is that total ebike sales shrunk by 11% yoy.
 
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WaPo had an article today about how Rad Power Bikes, backed by $300mm of capital investment, is teetering on the edge of going out of business. One of the nuggets there in is that the ebike sales shrunk by 11% you.
"Rad’s executives told employees they “did not anticipate the sudden drop in consumer demand from Covid-era peaks,”

The american way, produce nothing other than what china creates, spread your investment money when times are good then play dumb when the music is over.
 
Yeah, I just read that. Thankfully this doesn't apply to the e-bikes we ride yet but if this thing passes it's just a matter of time before it'll include all e-bikes including ours.
My understanding is that the recent revision includes all ebikes regardless of classification.

Quote from linked article:
The legislation, sponsored by state Senate President Nick Scutari, D-Union, would require all e-bikes in the state to be registered and insured and all riders to be licensed, a requirement now only applied to mopeds and the most powerful e-bikes.
 
My understanding is that the recent revision includes all ebikes regardless of classification.

Quote from linked article:
Yes but if you keep reading it also says this: "Registration, licensing and insurance are only required for mopeds and the more powerful of e-bikes capable of traveling faster than 20 mph." Since our e-MTBs are all Class 1 e-bikes where assist stops past 20 mph, our bikes don't apply.
 
Yes but if you keep reading it also says this: Registration, licensing and insurance are only required for mopeds and the more powerful of e-bikes capable of traveling faster than 20 mph.
Which is preceded by "Currently, New Jersey has three classifications of e-bikes."

The paragraph before that:
The bill would eliminate all e-bike classifications and redefines “motorized bicycle” to include any pedal bicycle with an electric motor that assists pedaling or can exclusively propel the bike via throttle.

Either way, I think it will pass. The comments on FB are overwhelming in support of the bill.
 
Is there anything in the bill regarding how the state would actually administrate all of that? I'm just imagining the NJDOT looking at this half-backed POS bill and going, "WTF??? You want us to do WHAT???"

How would they address riders visiting from outside NJ?
Yes but if you keep reading it also says this: "Registration, licensing and insurance are only required for mopeds and the more powerful of e-bikes capable of traveling faster than 20 mph." Since our e-MTBs are all Class 1 e-bikes where assist stops past 20 mph, our bikes don't apply.

No, the current proposed bill applies to ALL e-bikes and does away with the current "Class-1,2,3" categories. The current rules are bikes faster than 20mph need to be registered.
Basically, it looks like instead of allocating the funding required to enforce the current laws/regulations, they are going to implement a new law that will be even more difficult to enforce and administrate.
 
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