FAT CAAD is coming!

rick81721 said:
Trying to decide whether to: 1. keep base spearfish (my only mtb) and add a fatbike or 27.5+, or 2. upgrade spearfish to carbon horsethief or tallboy CC. maybe I should poll this
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You might also consider the new Salsa Pony Rustler (http://salsacycles.com/culture/introducing_pony_rustler). It's basically a Horsethief with 27.5+ wheels, but you can throw 29er wheels on there (provided you have or buy wheels with the Boost hubs). I really loved my Horsethief and there is a strong chance I will end up with this bike.
 
I was just reading that the latest carbon horsethief can take a 27.5 wheel with a 3 in tire. Is that the same thing?
 
rick81721 said:
I was just reading that the latest carbon horsethief can take a 27.5 wheel with a 3 in tire. Is that the same thing?
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Yeah I think so. My understanding is that the Horsethief and Pony Rustler share the same frame, and the difference is what size wheels come standard with the build kit.
 
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JimN said:
You might also consider the new Salsa Pony Rustler (http://salsacycles.com/culture/introducing_pony_rustler). It's basically a Horsethief with 27.5+ wheels, but you can throw 29er wheels on there (provided you have or buy wheels with the Boost hubs). I really loved my Horsethief and there is a strong chance I will end up with this bike.
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I agree. Exceptional
JimN said:
Yeah I think so. My understanding is that the Horsethief and Pony Rustler share the same frame, and the difference is what size wheels come standard with the build kit.
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The ponyrustler is the same front triangle, but the rear end is wider spacing (148mm). This looks like a great bike, but unfortunately they are already sold out for the year. By the time my rep got to me I couldn't even order any.

It appears that rims and tires are of limited production in 27+.

Based on this I doubled my #s on the bad habit and beast of the east.
 
jdog said:
By the time my rep got to me I couldn't even order any.
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Wow that's crazy, maybe I won't end up with one of these as soon as I thought...

jdog said:
The ponyrustler is the same front triangle, but the rear end is wider spacing (148mm)
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Salsa's website shows Boost 148/12 for both the Horsethief and Pony Rustler, although just because it's on the Internet doesn't make it true.
 
26" 27.5" 29" in that order, not much different which is why you get a fat bike that can run all 3 and have one bike 🙂

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JimN said:
Salsa's website shows Boost 148/12 for both the Horsethief and Pony Rustler, although just because it's on the Internet doesn't make it true.
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Yeah that's what I read too. If so, that looks like a winner - could go 29 or 27.5+. Tho I guess 2 wheelsets would be a pricey
 
jdog said:
We may look back at this time and laugh and laugh about the 6 wheel sizes being sold at the same time.
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this is the exact reason I originally hesitated on pulling the trigger with the 29s
now it's so much worst, I'm sticking with my lone 29r and fleet of 26rs, till the industry gets this worked out
Fats are not much better, the varying front and rear spindle sized and axle configurations are head spinning

what I like about road bikes is the simplicity and transferability of parts, aside from rogue BB sizes, Di2, disc brakes and tire choice (tubeless vs. tubed vs. tubular), there's not much to figure out

in comparison, I could move about 75% of my parts from a 3 year old road bike over to new frame, but for a mtb maybe 50% and a fat, less than 50% if I'm lucky. kinda of takes the fun out of getting a new bike when in 2-3 years I'm already behind the curve.
 
qclabrat said:
this is the exact reason I originally hesitated on pulling the trigger with the 29s
now it's so much worst, I'm sticking with my lone 29r and fleet of 26rs, till the industry gets this worked out
Fats are not much better, the varying front and rear spindle sized and axle configurations are head spinning

what I like about road bikes is the simplicity and transferability of parts, aside from rogue BB sizes, Di2, disc brakes and tire choice (tubeless vs. tubed vs. tubular), there's not much to figure out

in comparison, I could move about 75% of my parts from a 3 year old road bike over to new frame, but for a mtb maybe 50% and a fat, less than 50% if I'm lucky. kinda of takes the fun out of getting a new bike when in 2-3 years I'm already behind the curve.
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Yeah, I know the paralyzing feeling. Once you buy something, just stick with it until you feel you got your money's worth out of it, or it is unrepairable, or unsafe.
 
qclabrat said:
what I like about road bikes is the simplicity and transferability of parts, aside from rogue BB sizes, Di2, disc brakes and tire choice (tubeless vs. tubed vs. tubular), there's not much to figure out

in comparison, I could move about 75% of my parts from a 3 year old road bike over to new frame, but for a mtb maybe 50% and a fat, less than 50% if I'm lucky. kinda of takes the fun out of getting a new bike when in 2-3 years I'm already behind the curve.
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Yeah, if you forget all the things you said and 11spd. It is the same crap with the road bikes and now that the UCI is the on the verge of approving disc brakes, say bye bye to post mount style brakes. It is the same thing that happened within mountain bike 15 years ago.
 
qclabrat said:
Yeah, but if you upgrade hope you don't get a dead wheel size, think Betamax, minidisc, and hddvd.
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Unless you buy something really off the wall, you should be fine. Assuming the hub would be the part most likely to become obsolete, how hard do you think it would be to find a NOS or good used one on eBay? Buy spare hubs or parts if you want some insurance. Pick the max tire width you want, and that will drive the hub width. If you want more security, pick a "standard" that's already somewhat established and has multiple manufacturers on board. Buying hubs that are QR/TA convertible gives you a little more flexibility. If you're waiting for things to settle down, it could be awhile...
 
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