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Police report question - so I finally got the state police report from when I got rear-ended on the parkway more than 3 weeks ago (quick on the draw there trooper). Anywho, could have sworn the trooper said the girl that hit us was driving on a suspended license. But in the police report, there is no mention of the girl that hit us getting any citations - I thought it's automatic when you rear end someone to at least get a careless driving? To further complicate, I had to stop due to a third person disabled and partially blocking my lane, and this woman did get citations for willfully parking in a lane of traffic and also for driving on a suspended license. Does that get the girl that hit us off the hook?
 
It is absolutely 100% NOT automatic that she would get a summons.

Look at Box 137 and 139. That's where the summons for the offense that caused the collision would be listed if one was issued. If the additional summonses box is checked, then the additional summonses are supposed to be listed in the narrative. Driving while suspended wasn't the cause of the MVA anyway, regardless.

Look at Box 118 and 119. That is what the insurance company looks at for assigning fault, not whether a summons is issued. If she has 01, 02, 09, or 29 then she is listed as at fault. 25 is the code for no fault.

The disabled car should not get the girl that rear-ended you off the hook, unless the trooper deemed the accident unavoidable. I wouldn't because you were able to stop in time, but he might have. Or maybe his supervisor thought it was unavoidable and had him change it. I've seen some weird shit, especially with the NJSP.

Either way, you were rear-ended and your insurance company should list it as an accident that was not caused by you. Your collision coverage fixes your car, not hers.
 
Thanks. 118 a and 119a both have 99. Nothing in 118b and 119 b. In the narrative, the trooper states regarding the disabled vehicle driver: "despite multiple attempts by state police dispatchers to have the driver remove behicle from the lane of travel, same refused, resulting in the collision described above."

I know my insurance covers my damage (also totaled the boat I was hauling, which probably saved our vehicle from being totaled and injury to us), last time I got rear-ended (in feb - this is becoming a trend), I went directly through the insurance company of the guy that hit me so I didn't have to put out the deductible.
 
I would have used 29 but 99 means essentially the same. So his investigation revealed that the cause of the accident was the disabled vehicle.

I guess you can try the other's insurance company. It can't hurt.
 
1. Is it illegal to throw stuff like a banana peel out of your car window?
2. I assume it technically is. But does anyone ever enforce that?
3. Is it illegal to dump the ice from my soda out the window?
4. I assume not. So, is it illegal to drive down the road with an 18 wheeler full of 50 pound blocks of ice tossing them into the cars following it?
 
rick81721 said:
Police report question - so I finally got the state police report from when I got rear-ended on the parkway more than 3 weeks ago (quick on the draw there trooper). Anywho, could have sworn the trooper said the girl that hit us was driving on a suspended license. But in the police report, there is no mention of the girl that hit us getting any citations - I thought it's automatic when you rear end someone to at least get a careless driving? To further complicate, I had to stop due to a third person disabled and partially blocking my lane, and this woman did get citations for willfully parking in a lane of traffic and also for driving on a suspended license. Does that get the girl that hit us off the hook?
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You hit the jackpot. What are the chances of being involved in a accident with 2 females on suspended license? Maybe not as rare as you think 😉
 
Norm said:
1. Is it illegal to throw stuff like a banana peel out of your car window?
2. I assume it technically is. But does anyone ever enforce that?
3. Is it illegal to dump the ice from my soda out the window?
4. I assume not. So, is it illegal to drive down the road with an 18 wheeler full of 50 pound blocks of ice tossing them into the cars following it?
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1. Yes. 2. Occasionally. 3. Yes. 4. You assumed WRONG.

The Heckler said:
Has it been long enough yet?
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Not quite, but we are getting close. Probably next week.
 
The Range

We have our own firearms range at which we do our qualifications. The Attorney General only requires we do a simple static daytime course of 60 rounds and a static nighttime course of 40 rounds with a flashlight. Every year, we bitch about how unrealistic the qualifications are. When do officers stand still and fire at a target that is also standing still? Never. So, one of our firearms instructors decided that we should do some more dynamic exercises during training that would more accurately reflect real-life officer-involved shooting situations. But, he gets a bit carried away sometimes.

SNAFU SCENARIO #1

The instructor set up a scenario in which an off-duty officer would draw his weapon in street clothes in a weapons-retention position (firearm held at the hip, close to the body) and fire at the target from two yards away.

RESULT: Officer shoots through his own sweatshirt.

SNAFU SCENARIO #2

The instructor developed a move-and-shoot exercise where an officer moves from cover to cover and fires at a bowling pin in an attempt to knock it down.

RESULT: Officer shoots bowling pin and the round ricochets off and strikes the door of a Mercedes-Benz that was in the impound yard parked adjacent to the firearms range.

SNAFU SCENARIO #3

The instructor simulated a traffic stop where the suspect fires on the officer before the officer has a chance to exit his patrol vehicle. The officer needs to shoot out the side window of the vehicle with their weak hand (most officers shoot right handed).

RESULT: Officer shoots off side mirror of patrol vehicle.

We have since gone back to standing still and shooting at paper targets. I would not purchase a house within a mile of our firearms range.
 
That's gold. A while ago I had the opportunity to shoot with a few guys from the Rockaway township police department. My sister is occasionally married and was married to one of the guys on the force. My dad is also an instructor so we had some fun with it. I have shot competitvely for most of my life so "who could hit what at what distance" became a thing. Needless to say things went from shooting targets to shooting from a draw at 50 yards with a .38. It got dumb but real fun. We decimated a bowling pin with a .44.

On another note, I took my wife to shoot for her first time when we had just met. It was at an indoor range at a private club in north jersey. She shot the ceiling with a 9mm. Thank god for steel plates. Needless to say a note was mailed out to all members as a reminder for safe firearm operation and to not shoot the ceiling. We never went back. When they say people can't "hit the broad side of a barn", with her at that time, I believed it. She is a much better shot now.
 
Also took my wife shooting when we first got married
Thought it would be a good idea for her to know what a gun feels like should she ever needed to use one. She enjoyed capping off the 22 at Rays at the time, but ended up with a gash from the slider on a PPKS 380. Since then she's been reluctant to shoot. Though thinking of taking my older daughter next year, but no Walther for her.
 
clarkenstein said:
That's gold. A while ago I had the opportunity to shoot with a few guys from the Rockaway township police department. My sister is occasionally married and was married to one of the guys on the force. My dad is also an instructor so we had some fun with it. I have shot competitvely for most of my life so "who could hit what at what distance" became a thing. Needless to say things went from shooting targets to shooting from a draw at 50 yards with a .38. It got dumb but real fun. We decimated a bowling pin with a .44.

On another note, I took my wife to shoot for her first time when we had just met. It was at an indoor range at a private club in north jersey. She shot the ceiling with a 9mm. Thank god for steel plates. Needless to say a note was mailed out to all members as a reminder for safe firearm operation and to not shoot the ceiling. We never went back. When they say people can't "hit the broad side of a barn", with her at that time, I believed it. She is a much better shot now.
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That's good stuff. I never thought about steel plates in the ceiling but that makes sense.

Actually that reminds me of a story from when I worked in Fanwood. A sergeant was cleaning his gun at the dispatch desk at like 3am and ended up shooting the 9-1-1 monitor.

qclabrat said:
Also took my wife shooting when we first got married
Thought it would be a good idea for her to know what a gun feels like should she ever needed to use one. She enjoyed capping off the 22 at Rays at the time, but ended up with a gash from the slider on a PPKS 380. Since then she's been reluctant to shoot. Though thinking of taking my older daughter next year, but no Walther for her.
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I had very little experience with firearms before the academy. I ended up ripping open my hand with a Glock during training. You generally only make that mistake once. 🙂
 
I took a shooter safety course as an elective at Penn State - we shot 22 rifles at an indoor range. One yahoo in my class stuck his head out too far in his booth and caught a piece of a richochet right under his eye. A nice gash in his cheek but he was lucky it wasn't an inch higher. Our instructor (some geezer) was trembling and said it was the first time anyone had ever been hit there.
 
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