Dave Taylor
Rex kwan Do
Because of…take a pil for this take a pill for that, now 10 years later take a pill for your kidneys because they are F’d up…let’s take zoloft for life so we have no personality instead of fixing underlying issues.
Tariffs...what to make of them.
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No, if you don't take this pill and something goes wrong, instead of the insurance convering meds for a few thousand, they get suit with treble damages for negligence.
Simple math. Watch fight club
Dave Taylor
Rex kwan Do
Like I said, we treat symptoms, we don't find cures.
Steve Vai
Endurance Guy: Tolerates most of us.
Kinda sad how many people don’t understand this. The internet videos of MAGA business owners whining about import costs are hilarious. Especially the farmer ones. Like you voted to lose your employees and pay through the roof for product so, sorry, not sorry 😂
Dave Taylor
Rex kwan Do
I think the idea is that now Americans buy American or from allied countries rather than from China because no one is going to pay a 125% extra.
gonna play some devils advocate here, bc i dont think anyone voted like that, noone(generalization) expected he was going to go this far off the rails, he has a history of making wild claims for the attention and then his follow through being more moderate, think about term 1, that is more what people were expecting when they voted for him. (i would expect)
i can say this is surprisingly difficult to do in some areas
Steve Vai
Endurance Guy: Tolerates most of us.
Not a chance. They put up a dirt cheap warehouse in Canada or Mexico and truck the stuff over the border. US Manufacturing couldn’t have the quantity of product needed to keep up with demand anytime soon. Or even the quality of product needed. China is not some 3rd world country picking chocolate beans, they’re manufacturing products that are light years ahead of anything the US could ever hope of building. Best we can do is deforest our national parks to save a few bucks on lumber to build shitty condos for no one to rent 🤷
Dave Taylor
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https://www.safeguardglobal.com/resources/blog/top-10-manufacturing-countries-in-the-world/ Maybe maybe not. I said if we include allies.
Not sure how they didn't think this was possible. The Democrats did nothing but scream that he's going to go this far off the rails for the entire campaign. Half the voters just wouldn't believe it.
Steve Vai
Endurance Guy: Tolerates most of us.
IDK, a quick scroll the comments section of any IG or FB post has me thinking these folks have dug themselves in even deeper now. Attacking US Businesses and citizens. Oh that US War Veteran got deported? Shouldn’t have ordered Quesadillas.
as mentioned above several times, politics has become so polarizing that both sides scream about the other going nuts all the time that to those of us in the middle it all becomes noise and since it historically hasn't gone nearly this far its become noise that is assumed to be propaganda.
unfortunately you can only reference the vocal minority (as with anything) since they are the ones foolish enough to make a scene (in person or online), Social media in general has done more harm than good in this particular arena as it becomes an echo chamber for the extremes and a colosseum all in one, nothing good for the reasonably minded center.
economic theory says that if if they raise the cost of importing above producing locally, they will produce it locally,
and charge just a bit less than the import (maybe) - so there will be no savings to business, but it will create local jobs,
source local materials, etc - which drives up demand for labor, so labor costs more. Same with materials, assuming we can get them "locally"
you've heard me say this before - the cost of producing something is disconnected from the price charged - you charge what people will pay (price elasticity) which maximizes profit.
this is the whole basis of a global economy -
Dave Taylor
Rex kwan Do
Yes, or in other words “supply/demand”. If no one demands it, supply is high, price comes down and vise versa.
Dave Taylor
Rex kwan Do
And for the record, I think the only reason this is even a thought of implementing tariffs is that the onset of World War lll is coming and the US is very underprepared. I’m thinking they want manufacturing so that weapons include can be made here to support a war. I hope this isn’t the case but that’s the only reason I can think that we would be doing something this crazy.
There is no big plan. If there was a plan he wouldn't change his mind every other day. If WWWIII is coming it's not because that is the plan, it's because he's too stupid to realize what our former allies think of us now.
MMuller
Well-Known Member
Agreed! I say any business owner that voted for him should absorb ALL increases and NOT pass on to the consumer.
SmooveP
Well-Known Member
Ya think? I think it's weird that employers ever got into the business of providing health insurance. It started out as a perk by a single company to attract and retain employees, then basically every company in the country followed suit. You could say the same for pensions and 401K's.
Steve Vai
Endurance Guy: Tolerates most of us.
Not like Employee Benefits do anything, it just looks good on paper during the hiring process to make it feel like the shitty wages are OK. Try using them and see how far you get. I’m 3 rejected applications into using my company offered Disability and Medical Benefits. The State of NJ and Federal Government was actually easier to deal with 😂
