Robson
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Let's agree that healthcare in this country sucks.
Tariffs...what to make of them.
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I think it is the insurance - the care seems solid if you advocate for yourself.
John the Plumber
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What I mean is that per car in Canada is $1500.00 less to make because of the health insurance cost.
Robson
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I have to disagree. Doctors tends to push drugs all the time, and I understand why. This is system wide problem, not just insurance.
SmooveP
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For-profit health insurance is all about making it difficult to get reimbursed. I'm 2 years into Medicare and I have to say it's been pretty good.
And how many republicans bought tech stocks in the past few days?
Robson
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That's another story. One day we'll learn about this insider trading.
Do you really think it’s limited to republicans? I’d place money the corruption bleeds equally across both sides. How did Nancy Pelosi make all those millions on a 185k yearly salary again?
johnbryanpeters
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It is in fact both major parties. The USA since its inception has been set up to screw the average person and feed the rich. Read Howard Zinn's A People's History of the United States.
Maybe they can use the lie detectors that are being used on the FEMA employees.
Dave Taylor
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It sucks because you pay out the ass for insurance. Paying $20k/year as a family is a lot for shitty ass coverage. I'm lucky I'm union and pay zero for health insurance.
Dave Taylor
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Just go in finviz.com and find out for yourself.
Dave Taylor
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This. The RICH get richer and the POOR get poorer.
who pays 20k/year for health insurance? or are you including the employer portion of the coverage?
Dave Taylor
Rex kwan Do
Have you had to pay for health insurance for a 5 person family outright? $25k is more like it now actually. I had "great" health insurance when I worked for Caterpillar and still had to pay $680 month for subpar coverage.
yes i have, and its about the same as yours for a family plan (regardless of how many children are included) although our coverage is pretty good.
your math works out to $8160/year, for your cost, hence why i asked if you were including employer contributions.
My union contract is for a total compensation package, some in the check, rest to bennies.
There is an administrator that handles the benefit part, $15 per hour goes to health and welfare, major portion of that is health insurance. Pretty standard practice and numbers for union construction trades in the northeast.
for a standard man-year of work that maths out to 31200 in benefits (i assume this includes all employer paid benefits including any 401k match ect ect, but please feel free to clarify if that is wrong)
that is including what most people consider the 'employer contribution' @Dave Taylor is acting like he is paying 26k on his own BEFORE employer contribution, which his own numbers dont support. He is in the right ballpark on the overall cost of the policy, but individuals are not (in most cases) paying that on their own, the employer is covering the majority of that cost (25k-8k = 16k employer cost)
$1500/mo is easy these days and that's with a high deductible.
Without competition or public displayed costs for service. And big middle companies providing no value as health providers disguised as health insurance companies.