This Thread Blows - C19 and beyond

Is there a "third man in" rule? Asking for Max...

"and all the persons after that"

I don't mind specific policy decisions being discussed.
cause if we really think we are smarter than the think tanks, we are delusional.
that or
follow the money works every time.
 

Individuals Fully Vaccinated Per 100 People​



Gibraltar

97.5%
United Arab Emirates

90.3%
Portugal

89.0%
Brunei

87.3%
Singapore

87.0%
Chile

85.4%
Cayman Islands

84.9%
Malta

84.2%
Cuba

83.8%
Iceland

82.4%
South Korea

82.0%
Spain

80.8%
China

80.5%
Cambodia

80.2%
Seychelles

79.1%
Japan

78.0%
Malaysia

77.9%
Faeroe Islands

77.8%
Denmark

77.5%
Canada

76.9%
Chart: U.S. News & World Report Source: Our World in Data

What's your point? There are countries higher vax rates, others lower. We are similar to the big EU countries and EU in total:

share-people-vaccinated-covid.png

Spain is high on the list of well vaxxed EU countries - they are about to break their record for most cases/day. Here in the US, Rhode Island is the second highest vaxxed state - they are also breaking their daily record.
 
What's your point? There are countries higher vax rates, others lower. We are similar to the big EU countries and EU in total:

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Spain is high on the list of well vaxxed EU countries - they are about to break their record for most cases/day. Here in the US, Rhode Island is the second highest vaxxed state - they are also breaking their daily record.
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Your "math" predicts the current death rate will continue unabated for 52 straight weeks. Complete nonsense. See worldometer graph to see how the death rates ebb and flow. The peak Jan 15 of this year (with very few vaccinated) was 3500/day. Then it quickly declined.

And your reading comprehension is worse than your math. "More like the flu" does not equal "just like the flu".

I wasn't predicting anything at all with the analysis that concluded with the dead body total from a year of C19 being 14.4x the average flu death total from the last 10 years. You tell me my math is wrong and then when I ask you how it's wrong you can't demonstrate so you say I made a prediction, when I didn't.

And my comment was about this quote by @bergsnj

"It pretty much is "just" the flu now that we have treatments and covid shots and lessons learned. And Omicron is looking like it is similar to the common cold. "

How do you know that it is "just" the flu, especially with the millions of Americans who refuse to get vaccinated? The rate of death could go down or up---a binomial probability. I have no idea which way it is going. But then, I didn't post on 4/29/20 that "every metric shows improvement" in FLA before 60,000 more dead bodies happened. I also didn't post in April 2020 that C19 "might fizzle out by summer."

Worldometers now has the US C19 daily death rate slightly higher at 1,258/7DMA for 12/19, consistent with >440k/year. That death rate is if it doesn't get worse. Hopefully, it will get better.
 
So this "like the flu" seems to be a thing going around.

it is a snapshot, not a history of covid.

No claim on true/false - how do we know after 2 weeks?
early returns - sometimes right? sometimes not.

i still can't find info on who tested positive because they get tested regularly, vs who got sick and decided to get tested....
think about this - and this is what the NFL is claiming. They have players with no signs of being sick testing positive.
can they still spread? are they really sick?

stay tuned!
 
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I wasn't predicting anything at all with the analysis that concluded with the dead body total from a year of C19 being 14.4x the average flu death total from the last 10 years. You tell me my math is wrong and then when I ask you how it's wrong you can't demonstrate so you say I made a prediction, when I didn't.

And my comment was about this quote by @bergsnj

"It pretty much is "just" the flu now that we have treatments and covid shots and lessons learned. And Omicron is looking like it is similar to the common cold. "

How do you know that it is "just" the flu, especially with the millions of Americans who refuse to get vaccinated? The rate of death could go down or up---a binomial probability. I have no idea which way it is going. But then, I didn't post on 4/29/20 that "every metric shows improvement" in FLA before 60,000 more dead bodies happened. I also didn't post in April 2020 that C19 "might fizzle out by summer."

Worldometers now has the US C19 daily death rate slightly higher at 1,258/7DMA for 12/19, consistent with >440k/year. That death rate is if it doesn't get worse. Hopefully, it will get better.

What are you babbling about now?

So you're asking me a question about "just like the flu" that someone else posted? And I see you spent a few days reading thru 2 year old posts for old predictions again. Drunk??

Finally re: worldometer - you still don't get the concept of peaks and valleys? And the biggest peak in deaths this year was pre-vaccine? Have another drink and review again tomorrow!
 
So this "like the flu" seems to be a thing going around.

it is a snapshot, not a history of covid.

No claim on true/false - how do we know after 2 weeks?
early returns - sometimes right? sometimes not.

i still can't find info on who tested positive because they get tested regularly, vs who got sick and decided to get tested....
think about this - and this is what the NFL is claiming. They have players with no signs of being sick testing positive.
can they still spread? are they really sick?

stay tuned!

South Africa hospitalizations are lower with the omicron wave vs delta. And they are only at about 25% fully vaccinated

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ization-rate-eases-as-omicron-drives-new-wave
 
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