Wawayanda State Park Conditions
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mtn
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Best option is an attachment capable powerhead with either the articulating hedge trimmer or brush cutter. That way you can separate the two pieces and store them nicely in a backpack.
Side note: Hanover Lowes (and many others) have the universal brush cutter attachment from trimmerplus on clearance for $25.
Side note: Hanover Lowes (and many others) have the universal brush cutter attachment from trimmerplus on clearance for $25.
sundaydoug
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You can do a lot with a folding saw. I've cut downed trees as thick as 8" with this thing. Takes a while but it works. And it doubles as a weed-wacker once you've got the technique down.
Carrying this thing around in a pack is pretty easy.
Carrying this thing around in a pack is pretty easy.
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got the same one off Amazon, does the trick for fairly large downed trees and branches
chris12453
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Got in yesterday, did some little clean ups on the route I took which was quite a bit different than my usual. Firstly, the electric company work on Iron Mountain road made the road nice for those like myself who also gravel ride. I realized a question was asked of me about pump house and I missed it completely. I took a couple photos of the bigger trees but the smaller ones you can hop but in the humidity yesterday, novice might go down. These are 4 and 6 inch little guys. The first two are of pump house and the last photo 5334 is on twin bridges. There is also a tree laying across the wooden bridge on red dot just before double pond.
So some observations I had and this kind of reminds me of work they are doing in Ringwood. Pump house bridge, the remaining rock bridge is in a state of non rideable for most I would assume. Double pond, could certainly use some armoring. I know someone has been attempting it. If that person is you, I commend the effort, turn the sticks perpendicular to the tires so they don’t just slip through. I can certainly think of other places, but I was thinking those were two good spots for concentrated maintenance.
So some observations I had and this kind of reminds me of work they are doing in Ringwood. Pump house bridge, the remaining rock bridge is in a state of non rideable for most I would assume. Double pond, could certainly use some armoring. I know someone has been attempting it. If that person is you, I commend the effort, turn the sticks perpendicular to the tires so they don’t just slip through. I can certainly think of other places, but I was thinking those were two good spots for concentrated maintenance.
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Kaleidopete
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Nice! You can also report trail conditions on NYNJ trail conference web site, I do, I don't know if it does any good though. I also always get a thank you back from them
V-Dub
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so it does do some good but we're more local than they're maintainers so usually get to the trees before them. Marking the
trouble spots on Trail Forks is the best
way though, all the park reps us it.
chris12453
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Dave,
I’ll see if I can get some marks for you. I don’t use Trailforks or Strava. Obvious reasons for that which I know you have a pretty good idea why I don’t. But to make it pretty easy, everything down is on what I call the double track behind all the houses. Would extend from where you make the right if we took the normal thanksgiving day loop and stopping at the intersection to go to timber or out to cherry/turkey ridge. Twin Bridges I can say little trickier as that is essentially mid way.
I’ll see if I can get some marks for you. I don’t use Trailforks or Strava. Obvious reasons for that which I know you have a pretty good idea why I don’t. But to make it pretty easy, everything down is on what I call the double track behind all the houses. Would extend from where you make the right if we took the normal thanksgiving day loop and stopping at the intersection to go to timber or out to cherry/turkey ridge. Twin Bridges I can say little trickier as that is essentially mid way.
Kaleidopete
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They're working on Iron Mountain tr today and most likely longer.
what the hell do they keep paving iron mountain trail for? it seems like i've been reading about them paving this one specific trail since like april. meanwhile, i have to actively swerve around craters/potholes at both entrances
Kaleidopete
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I believe this is the electric company, as they have to maintain the powerlines that run the length of that trail/road.
Kaleidopete
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The tree across Cherry Ridge by Red Dot has been cleared, the whole trail/road is clear now
it's too bad we can't string up power lines by the aux entrance and red dot trail then so the power company could take over maintenance from the park
Kaleidopete
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Park maintenance? What's dat?
chris12453
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I think we are starting to see maintenance at Wayway. Took a while at ringwood as well. I mean we did get the entrance paved which is nice, the ranger station is finally done, some new signs for the features of the park. Maybe next year, we can get another big chunk paved. This is similar as I alluded to earlier how the park handled fixing up Ringwood. Paved a section one year then went on a huge paving party the following. We run our Bike MS ride out of Spruce Run and that park needs work.
Kaleidopete
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Yes, they are fixing up the park nicely, but I don't think they have the staff to get out and maintain the trails.
I think that's going to left to us, the users and the special events groups that use the park trails.
I think that's going to left to us, the users and the special events groups that use the park trails.
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see but that's where i have big problems. besides tax revenue i also pay the annual park pass fee (even did it this year for something like a month of usage). so where does that money go? in 15+ years of riding there i've never once ever seen park workers on a trail. it's 100% left to the users to maintain, and that user pool is reduced to just bikers as i've never seen hikers doing anything either. but they use the trails, as do the horse riders and even the atv-ers (+skiiers and snowmobile-ers in winter). the only consistent maintenance i EVER see there is just before a race of some kind, but that maintenance is limited to the specific trails they're using. red dot isn't in the itenerary this year? no maintenance for you, try again next year.
all i ask, all i've ever asked is for the park to assign one guy with a quad and a chainsaw (and a weedwacker these days) to just pick a single trail maybe once or twice a week and just ride it and clear it up. that's all. that one guy with a minimal budget ($15 an hour, 5 hours a session, maybe 10 hours a week + gas) would do amazing things here. i've actually spoken to the park office about this and they pretty much dismiss me
Kaleidopete
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One problem is to use a chainsaw you are required to have two certified chainsaw people working together.
They only have one certified chainsaw worker in the park.
I have offered to be the 2nd person, but they will never take me up on it I'm sure.
mtn
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Must be a new thing over the last ten years? When I worked for NJ, it was a “certified” sawyer along with another employee.
Single Speeder
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Unfortunately any money the park makes selling park passes and day use fees goes directly into the general treasury. Parks don't see any of that money. Other issue is maintenance is short staffed, not all are chain saw certified especially seasonal. They cant keep up on regular day to day tasks with bathrooms, lawn mowing etc. Honestly I don't think trails are their main focus, which is sad. That should be priority not the beach.
The NYNJ trail confrence are the main overseasers for trails in our parks and I guess Jorba in certain parks. Don't forget the bootleg trails won't ever get cleared by the TC or park staff, that's up to us. Technically you need to be chainsaw certified but I've never heard anyone being questioned about doing trail maintenance.
I'm lucky at Stokes that If let them know of trails with trees, they will usually get out otherwise I'll try to get what I can. If I waited for TC it would take months as their focuse seems to be elsewhere.
The best option is to get a few dedicated people and form a small trail crew and set one day a week or month and tackle certain areas. Trail maintaining is a thankless job.
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