Tariffs...what to make of them.

Dave Taylor said:
I am far from a Trump fan but part of me feels like we just went from owing China lots of money to them paying us $500-750 billion a year...
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That is not how tariffs work. Tariffs are added to the cost of the item. China pays nothing. American tax payers pay the tariffs.
 
Bike N Gear said:
So in this fun game of high stakes poker what stops China from starting to sell off it's bonds now?
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Not good but I don't think China wants to do it because tRUMP already blinked. We are not going to be able to bring back toys or I-Phones. I do think tariffs on their EV and steel more targeted, but we really have to make our steel mills more automated, this would make us more secure. Also Microsoft cancelled its $1 billion server plant for AI in Ohio yesterday. We will have to bail out our farmers out again. The Idiot and chief is not a good businessman or has in place real good advisors, he only hears himself. LOYALIST.
 
so they hold the debt - then the only difference between them holding it, and a US institution is the strength/weakness of the dollar.
if they weaken the dollar, the debt results in fewer yuan per $?
 
I've tuned most of this out because the impacts to my portfolio is depressing. But, I can't help but think this is all part of some elaborate plan to purposely crash the stock market, so a bunch of these billionaires running the country can buy buy buy, then Trump will decide the time is right to put an end to these tariffs which will boost the market and make these rich pricks even more $.

And yes, when I'm not wearing a bike helmet, I wear a tinfoil hat.
 
Jeremy said:
I've tuned most of this out because the impacts to my portfolio is depressing. But, I can't help but think this is all part of some elaborate plan to purposely crash the stock market, so a bunch of these billionaires running the country can buy buy buy, then Trump will decide the time is right to put an end to these tariffs which will boost the market and make these rich pricks even more $.

And yes, when I'm not wearing a bike helmet, I wear a tinfoil hat.
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That is not tinfoil hat territory at all.
 
Jeremy said:
I've tuned most of this out because the impacts to my portfolio is depressing. But, I can't help but think this is all part of some elaborate plan to purposely crash the stock market, so a bunch of these billionaires running the country can buy buy buy, then Trump will decide the time is right to put an end to these tariffs which will boost the market and make these rich pricks even more $.

And yes, when I'm not wearing a bike helmet, I wear a tinfoil hat.
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I am wearing that tinfoil hat also.
 
tinfoil hatters:

are we going with the traditional pointy hat version or are we doing a skull cap kind of thing? should i try to make a bucket hat? i don't want to make a fashion faux pas
 
UtahJoe said:
Is orange Mussolini playing with his chemistry set again?
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The market is like this giant cruise ship that can't just instantly turn like a jet ski. The downward trend is already there. Investors are very leery of anything & everything at this point. People are not going to invest with confidence again until he stops shitting his pants and smearing it on his face. IMO it is entirely possible the market will stagnate between now midterms. Or just keep drifting downward.
 
After reading this thread, it seems like it’s only a matter of time before one of you is found hiding behind the fence of a golf course or atop a roof wearing the most beautiful tin foil hat
 
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