This Thread Blows - C19 and beyond

Zaskar said:
So here's a scenario now that folks are getting vaccinated.

Group is traveling for an event. One member who is fully vaccinated informs the group that his son has tested positive but since he is fully vaccinated its no issue because CDC say no need to quarantine.

Rest of group is sceptical and he's voted off this island.

Thoughts?
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Its the right move right now.
 
Zaskar said:
So here's a scenario now that folks are getting vaccinated.

Group is traveling for an event. One member who is fully vaccinated informs the group that his son has tested positive but since he is fully vaccinated its no issue because CDC say no need to quarantine.

Rest of group is sceptical and he's voted off the island.

Thoughts?
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Even when fully vaccinated you can get a mild case and potentially infect others. If everyone in the group was fully vaccinated I wouldn't worry about it
 
Norm said:
At this point in society I think you need to respect/understand the wishes of the group. Nothing is strictly understood so I think it's only fair to be accommodating to the group in that case.
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Yes, hes agreed on the group decision.
rick81721 said:
Even when fully vaccinated you can get a mild case and potentially infect others. If everyone in the group was fully vaccinated I wouldn't worry about it
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If that was the case it wouldn't have been an issue.
 
I've been hesitant to post this, because it is not for "thoughts and prayers", thumbs up, or heal fast. It is not for pissing contests of who had worse or politics.
I am over it and doing well. I am posting so there is an additional data point of information, and sometimes knowing someone who had it makes it more real. I'm sure we all know people who had it or who we lost to this, sometimes couples within weeks of each other. It sucks.
I tested positive in November. I am pretty certain it was acquired where I was working, because they suddenly gave the order for all hands to work from home immediately. People were walking around coughing and obviously sick, but saying they didn't want to use their sick time.
First few days were sore throat and headache.
One day of low grade fever 100.1
I was tested about the 5th day, as my Dr. said it needs to saturate the body to get a positive result. It worked, I tested positive.
I was checking my digital oximeter multiple times a day, 95% to 97%.
No loss of taste, smell, no vomiting, crapping, not even a runny nose or sinus drip. Just headache and sore throat.
I was feeling deceptively okay and raking leaves. No chest rattle, nothing to indicate the SARS aspect. I laid down to rest for a few minutes and felt a sloshing sensation in my chest. I went to get up and it felt there was weight on my sternum. In an instant, I could not breathe. Unlike phlegm, where you feel like you can cough it up, this felt much lower and I was unable to expel it. Panic/adrenaline I got up and went face down in the toilet bowl pressing against my chest (think Heimlich). I was able to get out a chunk of what was like ballistic gel. It was thick, heavy and nonconforming. Imagine pouring Jell-o gellatin into your lungs and activating it at once. The chunks got smaller and this went on for 9 hours. I kept checking my oxygen and it only went down to 94% at the lowest. The next morning I felt better with less sore throat and the headache was more mild. It all went away and that was the extent of it. 3-4 weeks later I rode High Mtn and Ramapo to see if anything would indicate prolonged effects, I'm still slow but good.
I will take whatever vaccine is available and whatever side effects happen is better than not being able to breathe.
TL, DR I got sick, I will still get the vaccine.
 
JerseyPete said:
I've been hesitant to post this, because it is not for "thoughts and prayers", thumbs up, or heal fast. It is not for pissing contests of who had worse or politics.
I am over it and doing well. I am posting so there is an additional data point of information, and sometimes knowing someone who had it makes it more real. I'm sure we all know people who had it or who we lost to this, sometimes couples within weeks of each other. It sucks.
I tested positive in November. I am pretty certain it was acquired where I was working, because they suddenly gave the order for all hands to work from home immediately. People were walking around coughing and obviously sick, but saying they didn't want to use their sick time.
First few days were sore throat and headache.
One day of low grade fever 100.1
I was tested about the 5th day, as my Dr. said it needs to saturate the body to get a positive result. It worked, I tested positive.
I was checking my digital oximeter multiple times a day, 95% to 97%.
No loss of taste, smell, no vomiting, crapping, not even a runny nose or sinus drip. Just headache and sore throat.
I was feeling deceptively okay and raking leaves. No chest rattle, nothing to indicate the SARS aspect. I laid down to rest for a few minutes and felt a sloshing sensation in my chest. I went to get up and it felt there was weight on my sternum. In an instant, I could not breathe. Unlike phlegm, where you feel like you can cough it up, this felt much lower and I was unable to expel it. Panic/adrenaline I got up and went face down in the toilet bowl pressing against my chest (think Heimlich). I was able to get out a chunk of what was like ballistic gel. It was thick, heavy and nonconforming. Imagine pouring Jell-o gellatin into your lungs and activating it at once. The chunks got smaller and this went on for 9 hours. I kept checking my oxygen and it only went down to 94% at the lowest. The next morning I felt better with less sore throat and the headache was more mild. It all went away and that was the extent of it. 3-4 weeks later I rode High Mtn and Ramapo to see if anything would indicate prolonged effects, I'm still slow but good.
I will take whatever vaccine is available and whatever side effects happen is better than not being able to breathe.
TL, DR I got sick, I will still get the vaccine.
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I'll briefly break my posting moratorium to say that you are exactly the person that SHOULD NOT get the vaccine right now. I'm glad you feel batter, but you had Covid, which is better than any vaccination. You have antibodies and memory T-Cells that are protecting you against reinfection. My elderly parents had it also, and are in the same situation as you. If you're re-infected/vaccinated, you'll likely experience a day of discomfort. Let those who haven't had Covid get scheduled and vaccinated first so that we can all move on from this.
 
Captain Brainstorm said:
I'll briefly break my posting moratorium to say that you are exactly the person that SHOULD NOT get the vaccine right now. I'm glad you feel batter, but you had Covid, which is better than any vaccination. You have antibodies and memory T-Cells that are protecting you against reinfection. My elderly parents had it also, and are in the same situation as you. If you're re-infected/vaccinated, you'll likely experience a day of discomfort. Let those who haven't had Covid get scheduled and vaccinated first so that we can all move on from this.
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Agreed. I will wait my turn and hope that those who need it more than I do, go and get it.
It's a shame there isn't antibody testing prior to getting the vaccine, but I guess fast reliable results are the issue.
I think @rick81721 may have posted an article about those who had it only needing one shot, if that.
 
Here's another mind blowing scenario. Hypothetical institution (that I certainly don't work for) had a policy that all patients must be tested prior to treatment (Note that there is no retesting of the patient between the period of txt start and finish since the resources aren't readily available... but, we will just give recommendations to please refrain from large gatherings (duh!)). PCR swab tests will be the standard method of testing and if a patient tests positive and is still going to be treated, full PPE is required. Patient is isolated from rest of general public and brought to treatment area and then area is "deep cleaned," whatever that means. Ok, sounds fair enough. Separate policy states that patient has the right to refuse a pcr swab. In lieu of swab, they can get a saliva test elsewhere and prove negative result or get a serology test.

Here's the thing, serology testing makes no sense on multiple levels, but picking out the primary ones, a serology test will not determine whether a person is currently positive for the virus, so if someone tests negative, they could potentially be positive since antibodies have not yet formed. Secondly, this hypothetical institution's serology testing method does not discern between antibodies that were derived from individuals that were fully vaccinated, those that were positive (could have been months ago), or those that are currently positive. Suddenly all of hypothetical institution's staff are wearing full PPE and discarding full PPE on multiple cases throughout the day because a vaccinated patient didn't want their brain probed by a PCR swab and didn't want to go out of their way to get saliva tested. It took 2 weeks for someone to speak up regarding how wrong this policy was and no one knew why it was even written that way in the first place. I'm so ready to move forward, but it needs to be done in a logical manner /rant
 
Zaskar said:
So here's a scenario now that folks are getting vaccinated.

Group is traveling for an event. One member who is fully vaccinated informs the group that his son has tested positive but since he is fully vaccinated its no issue because CDC say no need to quarantine.

Rest of group is sceptical and he's voted off the island.

Thoughts?
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Can he get tested prior?

rick81721 said:
J&J 1 shot vaccine is a hot commodity in FL right now. Wifey wants to wait for it but I'm getting dose 1 of Pfizer on monday.
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Good luck Ricky boy.
 
The_Mountainside_Menace said:
I wish you the best of luck in your recovery. I was a bit insensitive in my comment, but I'm just mind-blown how many NEED to get to work despite the whole pandemic thing going on and putting others at risk. I am assuming the whole family is now quarantining? Negative test for your wife at this point, doesn't mean that she doesn't have it based on the incubation period. Best strategy is for everyone to stay home, assume they have it, and quarantine for the 10 days. If without symptoms, good to go. If they do test positive, the provider will give them the same advice anyway. They should not go and get a test until day 5. At that point, if negative and they are symptom free for 7 days, then it is assumed that they are not a risk to the general public.
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Update-Today would be day 6 from exposure. Both kids tested today, and they tested my wife- everyone is negative. I had a PCR test today to see if the rapid was a false positive.
Pertaining to your concern about why people feel the need to go to work- There’s so many levels of separation with this so the whole going to work like normal seems well.. normal I guess.
Update on me- fever seems to be gone today, I’ve been drinking hot lemon and honey water like it’s going out of style. I had my wife boil a half gallon of water and put it in this Insulated Rtic Jug so I can have it at bedside. Also upped the vitamin c to 3500mg a day and D3 to 4000iu. Swallowing seems to be getting easier, nothing really going on in my chest, i am however having a lot of sinus drainage causing some coughing.. I would like to get out and walk around.
 
Florida doing a better job than us. What is it now, anyone over 40 can receive the vaccine if they want (no questions asked)?
 
mfennell said:
Based on distribution as a percentage of population, NJ is doing better. Percentage of first doses, NJ is 9th, FL is 35th of the states. NJ: 27.8% have had one shot. 14.5% fully vaccinated FL: 23.8%/13.3%. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/covid-19-vaccine-doses.html?action=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage

Maybe demand is higher in NJ?
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Florida was holding a second dose when the first was scheduled, don't know how nj was doing it. Now there 8s so much it doesn't matter.
 
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