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Question about Garmin GPS time table data-
1 Time
2 moving time
3 elapsed time

What is the difference between time and moving time? My timer stops when I stop moving and starts when I start moving again. On today’s ride my timer elapsed time was 4.21, moving time was 3.34, and time was 3.49 (which I adjusted to 3.52, by my bike computer). Why would Garmin moving time be so much lower than moving time from my bike computer and that other Garmin time?:hmmm:

I’m new to this and any help is welcomed, plus I do not want anybody to think I moved less than 3 hrs. 47 mins today.
 
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What is the difference between time and moving time? My timer stops when I stop moving and starts when I start moving again. On today’s ride my timer elapsed time was 4.21, moving time was 3.34, and time was 3.49 (which I adjusted to 3.52, by my bike computer). Why would Garmin moving time be so much lower than moving time from my bike computer and that other Garmin time?:hmmm: I’m new to this and any help is welcomed, plus I do not want anybody to think I moved less than 3 hrs. 47 mins today.[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE]
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Time and elapsed time should be the same unless you stopped the timer at some point. Moving time only compiles while you are moving and is what should be counted for the competition. Does the bike computer calculate moving time or total time?

I checked your first file from yesterday and it had a very similar trend - your unit seems to be calculating "time" as 90% of "elapsed time". I checked my files and in every one "time" and "elapsed time" are identical - right to the second.
 
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olegbabich said:
Question about Garmin GPS time table data-
1 Time
2 moving time
3 elapsed time

What is the difference between time and moving time? My timer stops when I stop moving and starts when I start moving again. On today’s ride my timer elapsed time was 4.21, moving time was 3.34, and time was 3.49 (which I adjusted to 3.52, by my bike computer). Why would Garmin moving time be so much lower than moving time from my bike computer and that other Garmin time?:hmmm:

I’m new to this and any help is welcomed, plus I do not want anybody to think I moved less than 3 hrs. 47 mins today.
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Time is the time that passes form the moment you start your ride until you finish while the timer is counting. Moving time is obviously the time you are moving, and elapsed time is the real time that has passed.

So, say you start a ride at noon and are officially finished at 4:00. Then your elapsed time would be 4 hours. During your ride, you stop to watch a bear do what a bear does in the woods. However, this is a constipated bear, so he takes 20 minutes to do what bears generally do much quicker. Since this is the only time you actually stop, you would think that your moving time would be 3:40. However, this is where Garmin units can become tricky. Your Garmin can get confused sometimes (not by the bear - it doesn't care about the bear's constitutional difficulties.) It can have trouble determining whether or not you're moving if it's signals weaken or get mixed up by tree cover or other interference or you are riding on technical terrain and drop your speed to the point where you aren't displacing enough from the position you were the last instant that the satellite took its reading so that it can sufficiently determine your actual speed. When any of these happen, it may decide you aren't moving. So the time it spends confused will add to the time you actually aren't moving to knock down the total moving time. However, since the timer is still running, the "time" metric won't stop, which produces the difference between "time" and "moving time".
 
Thank you for all of explanation guys. The Bike Computer calculates moving time only. My GPS is a cheap model.🙁

1speed you are probably right about it being confused in the woods. I did not have that big of disparity on my road ride.
 
Dave I would like to take today's Dbl and move it to tomorrow. I will not be riding today. This is how ya do it?
 
How am I getting my butt kicked after putting in a 22+ hour 350 mile week? I gotta ride MORE than that!!?? :drooling:

-Jim.
 
4:54 - 73ish miles

20 pointer!
+
7 days in a row - already missed one, so...

http://app.strava.com/activities/43732912

leave house 6:45 - freezing, so not doing anything fast - forget to move the repair kit onto the cannondale. so back to the house. can't remember which house is Manny's so i wing it - and there he is getting ready to roll...
He says we are meeting jeff - ok, whoever that is - ends up being j-dro, and another rider Dave - very cool. get a txt from m3Tim - we catch up with him in the sourlands -
we ride around a bit, and hit the rileyville decent - i heard, turn left at the bottom...woops, the first bottom - anyway, needed to get home. i get a txt from roadie(chris) who i meet a mile from where i split with the "gang"
very lucky.

good riding with everyone.

wife has a list a mile long now! got to get to it.
 
you hit up like everyonr lol. I was in your streamline for a bit shouting as loud as I could to turn left but no dice.

Was that you at the park later?


2h50m... 43miles

16 points for the day. 36 total

Anyways am I racing myself?

If I be pro, I have 28 total
 
Ride # 5

Well, originally I did not think that I was going to be able to get out for a ride today, but my wife ended up getting called into work, so I got a pass. I had the privilege of riding with Jmanic and he was able to put a nice loop together of some roads I normally wouldn't link. Needless to say it was a nice change.

I used my double day already this week, as I originally didn't think I would be able to ride today. So this this would just be 4pts.

http://connect.garmin.com/activity/282257133
2hrs 4min
 

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you hit up like everyonr lol. I was in your streamline for a bit shouting as loud as I could to turn left but no dice.

Was that you at the park later?
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we were doing a little over 50mph! focused on not hitting a pebble....
good ride, thanks for hooking us up.

i went right home to work on the honey-do list....still am.
 
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I think I figured out the time discrepancy. Pause/Start value was set at 5MPH so the moving time timer stopped when going below 5MPH and did not start until I got above 5 MPH. I changed the value to ½ MPH and today both values were much, much closer.

Today’s ride:
4hrs 49 min / 76.74 miles
10x2=20 points

It is a beautiful day today. I started in the morning and it was a little chilly. After 3.5 hrs. I ran out of water and was overdressed, so I came home ( 15 min max). Put on summer shoes, summer gloves, ate a sandwich and went back out. First bugs are also out today and I ate a bunch.

Garmin GPS: moving time 4:49, distance 76.74, max speed 32.1, avg speed 15.7

Bike Computer: moving time 4:54, distance 77.49, max speed 32.3, avg speed15.7

http://connect.garmin.com/activity/282268645
 

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Don't call it a comeback.

I'm still here Manny!
I'll try to make it interesting before it's all over.

Looks like I picked the wrong week to give up riding bicycles.
Just an awesome day out there.
Tooled around the hood with Ebineezer -
Nice to meet you, glad you got the pass for today.

2 hours and 31 miles, I think that's 10 for commuter class.
http://app.strava.com/activities/43744997

Recovery beverage:
Sixpoint resin and pork fried rice
 
Endurance ride +SST

Was on rollers yesterday and forgot to turn auto pause back on. This means my time is off. With lights and a flat I'd say my rolling time was more like 4:15 range.

Good for 8 pts. x 2 = 16pts.

http://connect.garmin.com/activity/282282584

It was nice to see the Orange gang rolling along Washington valley rd. It was all a blur, Norm and Pearl stood out. Ru and Dana where bringing up the rear. Do I get bonus pts for crossing the road and giving high 5's?
 
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Went to Wharton Forest for a nice long ride today, but ended up having to settle for 3 hours moving time when my buddy had a bad crash that forced us to slow down and stop multiple ties in the 16 miles it took to get him back to the car. He hurt his back and chest and possibly a concussion when he missed on a log hop. Then his rear tire kept losing air and we kept re-filling it. We were going to just pop a tube in, but we were kind of worried that if he sat down he may not get back up too easily. So we would ride a mile, fill it up, ride a mile, fill it up. I used all my CO2 cartridges and his CO2 can. All that added up to a lot of non-moving time, but screw that -- we got him home and he's doing better!

3 Hours at double points = 12 points for the day

http://connect.garmin.com/activity/282335761
 
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